warp wrote this on the forum......"god views apostacy as a much graver sin than pedophilia, and that is a biblical fact.".
http://www.touchstoneforum.com/htdocs/dcforum/dcforumid2/81.html.
that's pretty sick coming from a jw in good standing!
This is totally disgusting! Thinking back you are so right. My god I never saw that.
It sucks to be a woman and a child in this organization.
With their definition of apostacy, the GB is responsible for their own undoing.
They are the ones that have committed these grievous sins.
Talk about keeping the congregation clean my god they have it all backwards.
Maybe the congregations should have kept the GB clean.
Thank you
Cathy
wow.
it just doesn't seem like 15 years have slipped by since i was tossed.
i still think of my friendships and the people i knew in terms of the way i knew them then.
Congratulations Joel Bear!
What is the best thing you have learned or done since?
Cathy
many have no doubt read about recent findings in the field of neuroscience that has suggested that the unique sensations associated with religious awe and devotion eminate from a region in the temporal lobe.
this region of the brain can be stimulated using magnetic probes to create a sense of religious fever.
even dedicated atheists have been tested on and had the same or similar results.
Glad to hear about this study.
Makes my life more understandable.
Cathy
first, simon and other mods, please let this thread run its course for a while.
if it gets too dicey, then i will move or lock it.
my goal is not to have a big flame war, but to expose an issue for what it is.
Wow, will be watching this thread.
Everyone does the best they can. Maybe both these men have done all they can.
They have certainly supported and helped alot of us with the decisions they have made.
I didn't know there was a Ray or Bill Club.
Cathy
personally no, and as such i was never disappointed that the system didn't end.
embarrassed, yes.
the org.
Yes I believed it. There was no reason to question it. But then again everyone loves I love Lucy show and I never understood it. So you see maybe my mind can only see what is in front of it.
Cathy
i've made a few posts on the forum to date, and have read more.
i'm in a really bad mood and looking for some shoulders to cry on.
i will try to keep my story brief.. i left the jw's 9 years ago and never went back.
Rush,
After all was done and said with my mom she hates the fact I am not there. The fact that in her mind I am already dead so why bother with me. She has learned to not say anymore to me about jws because I did state my stand many times to her. It finally sank in.
Your mom is feeling a loss that only time will help her deal with it. My dad also stepped down and not because I was livign with him. He felt he should not sit in judgement of others as he had been through alot of what he was sitting in judgement on. Also because he was not going to turn his daughter. I lived 800 miles away from them all and this helped alot to grow up as I didnt have anyone.
Give your mom some time. State your position and leave it be. Always tell her you love her. Never let it get to you and depress you. Easier said than done. You have gone out and made a life for yourself without their help. Be happy for your accomplishments and don't let others belittle you about them. You are who you are and no one can take away your personal beliefs.
Good luck,
Cathy
scenario 1: if you could guarantee that you would not get caught would you steal a million dollars?.
scenario 2: if you could guarantee that you would not get caught would you steal a million dollars from the wtbs?.
scenario 3: if you could guarantee that you would not get caught would you steal a million dollars from a bank?.
No, No, No, No
I couldn't live with myself.
Besides if I had money I would have to go shopping and I detest shopping more than I detest the GB...well maybe not that much.
Cathy
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when the election rolls around, will you be pulling the lever for w?
i will, unless somebody comes along with the offer of free supermodels for me.. czar
NO
I didnt' feel the need to vote before this. After what has happened in the last couple of years I don't care if my vote does or does not count, but it will make me feel better that I tried. I am registered and I will be voting.
Cathy
many people here have described how interesting this summer's conventions were.
well, i got this picture - which requires no explanation - from a faithful to the letter jdub but apparently with a good sense of humor.
now, if this picture made its way to an watchtower magazine, what would the caption be?
OH my god I can't stop laughing. My god I am going to have a heart attack. I am seeing stars...
Thank god i won't be taking up the place on the floor with all the older folks.
As far as young people, come on, we were up in the rafters talking, walking, laughing.
Using the binoculars to scope out the guy way across the stadium...oh look at those pecks on him, my god, did you see that butt. Lets go sit over there so we can have a better look.
Great picture!
Thanks for the laughs.
Cathy
the 'flock' book (elders manual) makes this quite clear and upon arriving at your judicial hearing one of the first questions you will be asked is whether you have any recording/transmitting equipment with you.. however, most jw's will have never seen - or even heard of - the 'flock' book.
do a search on the wt cd on recording meetings and you will see that it all pertains to the recording of meetings at the kingdom hall and conventions and that any brother wishing to make such recordings is free to do so so long as the recording equipment is not attached to the society's equipment.
the one question of propriety that is raised has to do with recording prayers.
I know this is a serious thread but I had to laugh. Elsewhere you blew my mind.
God I missed out on all the fun of being dsf. I just faded away like a bad dream.
I guess I was not important enough to have an judicial committee decision.
It seems like I missed the party again.
Cathy
