i just received an email from a faithful witness, re their co's visit.
"our co just came back from two months co training.
he said there were two important things headquarters want the brothers to know:.
The problem is they have predicted the end wll come soon after the work slows down. When it doesn't......
Don't worry, they go that covered.
"Soon", in WT-speak, is any period of time from a few seconds to 125+ years (haven't they been predicting the end to come "soon" since 1879?)
It's...always...just....a...little...bit...further....ahead...
I'm guessing, you mean in the modern history of JWs, when did they stop thinking Jews were still somewhat in God's favor?
Didn't Russell teach that literal Israel would be restored? The board's various anti-semitic, new-world-order, lizard-being conspiracy theorists are wont to call him a Zionist, among other things.
Then there is the infamous 1934 Yearbook which contains Rutherford's scathing diatribe against the Jews.
So it seems like it was some time between 1916 and 1934. One of the board's more able researchers can probably point you to the exact year and/or publication that came right out with condemnation of Jews.
is j. k. rowling a witch?
the reason i ask is this, a 'nice' couple across the road are born again christian fundamentalists.
their little boy was playing with a sword and his mum told me he had been watching 'narnia' (based on the lion the witch and the wardrobe).
Well, she did turn me into a newt....
She failed to average 10 hours per month in service, so she didn't earn the privilege of being mentioned in the Bible.
according to the bible he decided to name her "woman".
in the previous verses he had been on an exercise to name all the beasts of the field and birds of the air.. personally, if i'd been wandering around a paradise garden on my own for years naming animals and suddenly set eyes on a perfect naked woman, i think i would be inclined to invent the first swear word.. although later, when eve gave birth, adam said it had been "with the lord's help".
so maybe he wasn't quite as spontaneous as i'd imagined, or maybe adam thought god was serious when he said she was a "helper".
"Stand back--I don't know how big this thing gets"
my super zealous father told me the other day how he just "loved" studying the daniel book for the second time.
he got "so much more out of it this time".
holy crap, give me a break!.
The daniel book is EXTREMELY confusing. Most witnesses credit this difficulty to it having "deep spiritual truths"
And there you have it, another JW "buzzword expression" decoded.
JW: "Well, Brother Snorefest, that certainly was a deep talk you gave."
Translation: What in the #$%^& were you talking about?
here are my notes from the 2006 special assembly day "keep your eye simple".
i added emphasis to some of the notes.. why keep your eye simple (local elder).
what are some of these things?
I thought they already do (to a limited extent).
You're right, they are instructed not to count the obvious nutters.
But, there are still 8500+ being counted year after year after year. And still for 6+ years, the Society maintains the number of "genuine ones is dwindling".
If the genuine number is far less, and the Society knows it well enough to print it in a magazine with 20 million + circulation, then it seems pretty fair to conclude that the society has some mechanism for knowing who the genuine ones are. They should then communicate who those genuine ones are to the elders, and say "count Joe Doddering, but if Sally Middle-Aged-Divorcee partakes, don't count her".
Hmmm...maybe its kind of like the Immortals, from the old "Highlander" TV series...you just "know" if the other coot in the room is one of "us".
here are my notes from the 2006 special assembly day "keep your eye simple".
i added emphasis to some of the notes.. why keep your eye simple (local elder).
what are some of these things?
Hey, did your speaker go into the "6 signs we are living in the last days" stuff?
It was a virtual word-for-word re-hash of th eWT study article from 3 or 4 years ago, about "6 lines ofevidence we are living in teh last days".
The last one was, "the number of genuine (super-stressed) anointed ones is declining"
Which got me to thinking....
On what do they base that statement on? Certainly not the count of those who partake of the emblems, as that number has hovered at 8500 or so for the past 15+ years.
If its not based on that number, it must be based on something else. What? Do they know who the "genuine" anointed are? If so, why not instruct elders of congregations where "non-genuine" anointed ones partake, not to count them? Seems like it would save a lot of confusion....
And if they don't know who the genuine anointed are, how can they say so assuredly that the number is declining?
One more question I'd like to ask, if the right opportunity with the right person presents itself...
here are my notes from the 2006 special assembly day "keep your eye simple".
i added emphasis to some of the notes.. why keep your eye simple (local elder).
what are some of these things?
The Bethel speaker that made the "20 - 30 years" comment is an older Bethel-heavy, former travelling brother. I found the comment interesting because in this case even a "higher up" in the Org actually believes this stuff.
Oh I don't know. It could also be that he's trying to convince himself that it is close....or it may be he says that because it is what is expected of him.
Allow me to play devil's advocate a moment...
Was Jesus' love really "unconditional"?
Did he love the Pharisees when he called them "offspring of vipers and whitewashed graves"?
Did he tell the adulterous woman that her sins were forgiven, period, or did he add "go and sin no more"?
What did he mean when he said "not everyone saying to me 'Lord, Lord' will enter the kingdom"? If certain people are excluded from the kingdom, on what basis, i.e., what conditions, are they excluded?
