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  What is this forum for?

  by Kate14 in

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  2. experiences

  i'm new.. my first post here asking for a little support was deleted by myself due to the frosty and rude replies i received.

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  i don't actually understand what this forum is for if it is filled with hostile people.. little confused.. why is everyone here?.

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  sir82

  Why is everyone here?

  I heard there was free beer.

  Thus far I have been sadly disappointed.
  
  
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  What a wonderful time---for faders to fade away!

  by eyeuse2badub in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’ve been thinking about it for a few weeks and i’m sort of surprised that no one else has introduced this topic!.

  what better time than now for a fader to fade?

  no meetings, no field service, no elder visits, no assemblies, no convention, and no other bullshit busy work going on.

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  Not sure it is an ideal time to fade.

  Elders are contacting publishers at least weekly, in some cases daily, including people on the "inactive" list. If you don't answer a contact attempt, the calls / texts become more frequent and urgent.

  Meetings are held on Zoom. Either your PC camera is on, so elders can see who is attending, or at least your name shows up as "signed on" even if you turn your camera off. There is "no excuse" for missing a meeting - it's right there at your home! No need to travel to the Kingdom Hall! If you're "tired", just sit on your sofa and watch!

  Come to think of it, "fading" is virtually impossible now.
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  Why are things wrong?

  by Tim207 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during our family worship tonight a thought popped into my head while watching this weeks video on demon influence.

  why is does jehovah not like certain things?

  like why is homosexuality wrong?

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  I had a simpler question on this week's video:

  Why do all the JWs in the video take the "Bible student's" account of hearing voices at face value?

  They immediately assume that oh yes, it absolutely, definitely, for a certainty, was a bunch of demons.

  No one thinks that maybe, just maybe, the lady is mentally ill? Or hallucinating? Or having a bad reaction to medication?
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  US Letter Read Sunday 4/26 at Meeting - No KH Use and No Field Service Indefinitely

  by JWTom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there was a letter read sunday at our meeting that mentioned some parts of us are starting to open back up.

  however, regardless of things opening up that no kingdom halls should be used for any meetings of any kind.

  also, no door-to-door ministry or any form of in-person ministry is allowed.

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  It's real.

  It's an "Announcement" rather than a letter, so it doesn't have letterhead, signatures, etc.

  But it's on the jw.borg site.
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  July 2020 Watchtower - A little observation

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a comment made in the latest study watchtower under the main discussion of humility.

  11 jehovah values humility more than ability and unity more than efficiency.

  therefore, do your best to serve jehovah with humility.

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  LOL.

  Translations:

  Jehovah values humility more than ability

  There are some really incompetent nitwits with positions of authority, but YOU can't complain about it. Your job is to "humbly" shut up and obey them unquestioningly in anything & everything.

  unity more than efficiency

  We've got stupid, inefficient processes full of red tape and bureaucracy, but YOU can't complain about it. Your job is to "unitedly" shut up and obey us unquestioningly in anything & everything.
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  A Question: How About Praying for -or Including a Mention of - Covid-19 First Responders?

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how do you think the congregation would react?

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  How do you think the congregation would react?

  You'd see the elders moving faster than they do when the Golden Trough Corral puts out a fresh tub of mac-n-cheese on a Sunday afternoon, racing up the aisle to "have a talk in the back room" with the prayer-giver.
  
  
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  My sister just sent me this text.

  by Brainfloss in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my sister sent me this text a few minutes ago.

  what does she know about my relationship with jehovah?

  it was followed up by a bunch of links to jw org problem is dialog is not possible her side is the only one to be heard.

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  It doesn't take too much effort to see where, in that text message, her eyes start to glaze over and the JW indoctrination kicks in.

  I'd just ignore it.
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  Ever wonder how to be "saved" as a JW?

  by sir82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was searching for something on the wt online library, and was struck by all the requirements a jw has in order to be "saved".. want to see a partial list?

  all these found by searching for "salvation depends" on wol.

  just do all 26 things, and you too can be saved!.

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  I was searching for something on the WT online library, and was struck by all the requirements a JW has in order to be "saved".

  Want to see a partial list? All these found by searching for "salvation depends" on wol. jw. org:

  salvation depends on faithfulness and endurance

  salvation depends on learning and using the pure language

  salvation depends on our coming to “an accurate knowledge of truth.”
  

  salvation depends mainly on our faith in Christ’s ransom sacrifice.

  Salvation depends on calling upon Jehovah’s name in faith

  salvation depends on Jehovah’s undeserved kindness

  salvation depends on their active support of Christ’s anointed “brothers”

  salvation depends on people’s understanding God’s Word and following it

  salvation depends on our turning away from bad ways and complying with what God requires

  salvation depends on our having a clean conscience
  

  
  Phew! That's a lot of hoops to jump through! That's 10 right there. That's all Moses had. But we're just getting started!

  salvation depends on the precious blood of Christ

  salvation depends on our remaining in union with Christ and producing good spiritual fruitage

  salvation depends on our “walking in the truth”

  salvation depends on having faith in the good news and walking in the truth

  salvation depends, not on anything we might do, but on Jehovah’s undeserved kindness

  (wait I'm confused - I thought salvation depended on this list of 897 or so things we have to do?)

  salvation depends upon having the correct understanding

  salvation depends on recognizing and obeying Jesus as our Savior

  Salvation depends on displaying humility

  salvation depends on the course of the individual

  salvation depends on acknowledging Jesus as Lord and Messiah

  Wow, we're up to 20 requirements to be saved!

  Any more?

  You betcha!

  salvation depends on acknowledging that Jehovah alone is God

  salvation depends on working faithfully as his dedicated slaves

  salvation depends on obedience to God in such things

  salvation depends on the course of the individual

  salvation depends on paying more than the usual attention to what God’s Son has spoken

  salvation depends upon their preaching as Christ did

  Well there you go!

  Just do all 26 things, and you too can be saved!

  Unless of course I missed some items by not doing a search on "salvation requires", "in order to be saved you must", "being saved means"....

  Yikes! I better get busy! There's probably a couple dozen other things I have to do!
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  
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  COVID-19 - Would It Work to Allow People to Sign Away Rights for Treatment Like JW's Do for Blood?

  by RubaDub in

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  2. friends

  people want to get back to work, back to "normal" in many cases (whatever normal now means).

  even trump is encouraging protesters in 3 states.. but with the covid-19 thing, this is not just a matter of a person taking a risk, as a person may do who smokes, takes illegal drugs or in other ways lives an unhealthy lifestyle.

  in general, most (not all, since cost of insurance and public hospitals may be involved), but generally you are not putting the lives of others at risk.

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  Oh it definitely starts at the top.

  Odd that states with Republican governors, with identical restrictions, don't need to be "liberated".
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  COVID-19 - Would It Work to Allow People to Sign Away Rights for Treatment Like JW's Do for Blood?

  by RubaDub in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  people want to get back to work, back to "normal" in many cases (whatever normal now means).

  even trump is encouraging protesters in 3 states.. but with the covid-19 thing, this is not just a matter of a person taking a risk, as a person may do who smokes, takes illegal drugs or in other ways lives an unhealthy lifestyle.

  in general, most (not all, since cost of insurance and public hospitals may be involved), but generally you are not putting the lives of others at risk.

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  politicians are getting squeezed by many to open things back up

  I disagree with "by many".

  There are a handful of protests by a few dozen yahoos at various state capitals. It's getting way too much oxygen from breathless media coverage.

  Video of goobers walking around with misspelled cardboard signs, chanting nonsense, makes for bright shiny images that look good on a TV newscast that boosts ratings.

  The governor of Georgia plans on "opening up" gyms & bowling alleys next week. Let's see if "many" people start streaming in, desperate to wear sweaty shoes that other people just finished wearing, and to stick their fingers into holes.