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  I'm seeking people from Australia.

  by Andrei in

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  hi all!.

  i'm seeking jehovah's witnesses from australia..

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  doofdaddy

  WHY?
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  I have a theory regarding Elders

  by Peppermint in

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  there has been much talk about the reasons for the demise of the book study.

  the society claim rising gas/petrol prices, which of course is not the real reason.

  some here think its down to declining numbers of elders and those who are reaching out.

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  Interesting theory P/mint

  Me? I think it's more mundane. Modern people don't have the attention span, or time, for so many meetings per week. It's the easiest meeting to get rid of and overall the drones will see it as a "blessing" from a loving org, who wish to ease their burden.
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  Does Religion have any place in the modern world?

  by Fisherman in

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  ceremoneys, costumes, spending time in church listenning the same thing again and again, forced to believe in things that cannot be proven.

  code or mindset that seperates you from others, wars, violence,....

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  doofdaddy

  As far as religion being good for your mental/physical health, so is owning a cat.

  My old man was a committed athiest and lived to 94, smoked all his life, had a mind completely free of depression or the debilitating effects of old age.

  Religion divides but spirituality and inquisitiveness opens the mind.
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  Why can the governing body perform a cost benefit analysis when...

  by DT in

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  the dubs aren't supposed to?.

  i remember being told that the book study was a necessary provision.

  it was expected that the dubs would make whatever sacrifices were needed to attend.

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  doofdaddy

  I ran into a jw yesterday for the first time in yrs. He told me about the loving gb how considerate they are to remove the burden of so many meetings. He was shocked that I new about the change weeks ago as it was just announced this week.

  Also asked why I left, so I explained the generation change. He knew neither the old stand, or the new, despite being 45 yrs old raised a witness and is now a travelling speaker!!

  He said I don't look for detail I just see the love.......

  What can you do for such people?
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  Emotional Reactions to the Loss of the Book Study

  by DT in

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  i think the loss of the book study will hit some like a death of a friend.

  it will mark the end of an era.

  it will forever change the religion of jehovah's witnesses and i believe the change is completely irreversible.. of course, most witnesses will be delighted by this.

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  doofdaddy

  If you look at the jw org over the last 15 or 20 yrs there has been a marked coming in to the fold with main stream religion. (What attracted me to jws was their radical non conforming attitude. Sorta alternative to the alternative lifestyle))

  Easing back on blood, voting, on and off higher education, joining the U.N. tricky tax dodging, buying large tracts of real estate, hassling for "donations" and most imortant, the scaling back of the urgency of armageddon ( I have never had a jw knock on my door in 10yrs. Where have they gone?).

  So less meetings means jws are slowly and intentionally, becoming a .....church!
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  I wonder if a JW would be allowed to eat this?

  by JH in

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  doofdaddy

  As a side note, how many jws were disfellowshipped for gluttony? I never heard of one but many an elder I knew ate to distraction. Two I can think of who were pensioned off because of their size. One used to boast of eating a 3 litre container of ice cream every night after stuffing all day. Probably dead now....

  So what is gluttony in the wt's eyes??
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  Major changes between the years 1968 and 2005

  by White Dove in

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  what are some major changes during these years that i was completely in the dark about?

  these are the years that i was in.

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  doofdaddy

  Oh, and "higher" education was a no no until Brookyn needed to update to computers and the old geezers needed a hospital to keep them running.

  Suddenly a call for nerds, Drs and nurses. When need was filled, it was a nono again.
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  Major changes between the years 1968 and 2005

  by White Dove in

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  what are some major changes during these years that i was completely in the dark about?

  these are the years that i was in.

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  doofdaddy

  As I hazily recall, the heart was the seat of motivation until the mid 70's( so it couldn't be transplanted). Then it became "just a pump". I guess one of the GB needed a heart transplant!!!
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  On the sound use of mental suicide.

  by Narkissos in

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  this topic is meant as a follow-up of my recent conversation with r. crusoe on different threads.. it seems to me that the current popularisation of eckhart tolle's philosophy, resurrecting what i think is the very core of age-old mystical traditions (to put it shortly: death of the culturally constructed "self"), without the collective mythological, institutional and social settings for such an experience, is potentially very liberating but also very dangerous.. i am sensitive to that because i went through a similar experience when i left jws -- i felt both its empowering and destructive force, and, although i certainly don't claim to have dealt with it optimally (is that an adverb?

  ), i'm hoping that experience, good or bad, may benefit others, to an extent.

  and i'm sure that i'm not alone in that case.. so i'd like this thread to be primarily supportive, even though that may include some theoretical and practical criticism.. .

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  This is the great debate JWF

  Is the mystical state just a form of madness and more importantly, does it improve our day to day life experience?

  I have experimented with LSD and DMT and have come to the conclusion that they are toys. They are amusing for the ego as far as recalling the experience to others. Sometimes terrifying, sometimes meaningful but are of themselves not the key to any "enlightenment".

  I look at people like Tolle and wonder, would he be a loving and attentive husband and father? What practical benefit to humanity are his vague, far off stares and distant giggles at something he finds terribly amusing. His message is simple.

  Stay in the present.

  Well, I guess he is at least making millions for himself out of it!
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  On the sound use of mental suicide.

  by Narkissos in

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  this topic is meant as a follow-up of my recent conversation with r. crusoe on different threads.. it seems to me that the current popularisation of eckhart tolle's philosophy, resurrecting what i think is the very core of age-old mystical traditions (to put it shortly: death of the culturally constructed "self"), without the collective mythological, institutional and social settings for such an experience, is potentially very liberating but also very dangerous.. i am sensitive to that because i went through a similar experience when i left jws -- i felt both its empowering and destructive force, and, although i certainly don't claim to have dealt with it optimally (is that an adverb?

  ), i'm hoping that experience, good or bad, may benefit others, to an extent.

  and i'm sure that i'm not alone in that case.. so i'd like this thread to be primarily supportive, even though that may include some theoretical and practical criticism.. .

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  doofdaddy

  Well Nark, a very interesting subject for me as I have, in the last few days, been rechecking Tolle's opinions.

  Firstly, I have had a similar experience (mental or ego suicide) to you and have literally faced death in the search for truth on a number of occasions since moving on from the jws. Suffice to say that I did a full circle on consciousness and reality, firstly going to the extremes of belief in illusion, even to the point of going to a shaman in Sumatra and asking for a ceremony to open my spiritual eyes (which brought on years of travel in India and a form of madness, or periods of lucid dreaming in a Jungian sense) to currently believing that ALL is reality.

  Tolle, I find quite boring in approach and message. I read a lot of Krishnamurti in India and Tolle not only parrots his message but apes his manner. Imho I believe he is making people spiritually lazy (staying in the grey, which is extremely dangerous) not enlightened. At least Krishnamurti preached, find your own truth.

  He is just another "guru" who will fade in time and his mantle will be taken up by another ear tickler (with followers still searching for truth without seeing the secret of personal responsibility)

  But I am sure that you would agree that if we keep pushing through though as individuals, the journey is well worth it.