welcome newdawnfades. Keep your thoughts to yourself and maybe drop a seed here and there with the wife and kids. Research, find out the whole truth about the truth.
LouBelle
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Hello
by newdawnfades ini am a long time lurker who has finally decided to post.
i am still in along with my wife, kids and extended family.
i am in my 40s and was raised in the org.
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Could the JWs sway you back...?
by new22day inop based on mr. freeze's topic - could attending the meetings/studying again sway any of you back to the org.
hearing the propaganda over and over again is pretty powerful i'm sure.
(i'm a non-jw, non-christian (no offense), stubborn as a bull and even i had moments of pause based on some of the doctrine (lasted 30 seconds) but i never had family/friends at stake or a background in this.
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LouBelle
NEVER EVER EVER!!!!!
There is nothing they can say or do that will get me back there. I have family in - I won't / will never go back even for them....nope.
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Who of you ever lied on your field service reports?
by Julia Orwell ini've read a few people mention making up the figures for the field service reports, and i want to find out how common it is.
i never lied on my report.
sometimes i'd round up 15 minutes if i'd mentioned jw stuff to my brother that month, but that wasn't falsifying.
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LouBelle
I did near the end - I felt nothing about it and then at the death I didn't bother putting in a field service report.
My aunt eventually saw TTATT - when I initially left I spoke to her on the lack of love, not that that had any influence or maybe it did, 5 years later she started questioning the faith on her own and doing her own research, that is when she came as we could have more detailed talks without her getting upset. She has since faded totally.
It took her to question - it's got to come from their side - otherwise it just looks like you're attacking the faith.
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I called the police.
by LouBelle ini stay at my grandmother's house and pay a little rent to her (r500) as it is all i can afford.
i do however buy and take care of all my own food, washing etc.. this morning at 6 am, my bedroom door opend, slammed shut, heard the key turn a couple of times, open and slam shut again.
i woke up with a fright as that has never happened....first thought is someone is in the house.
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LouBelle
Lois - My mother and father were there and heard him screaming - it's a big house with other cottages on it and my mum is in one of them. My gran - has just come out of the hospital after surgery and is in a lot of pain - the poor woman.
My grandfather does not have dementia - he is just a horrible horrible man.
Tiktaalik - I am ok. This may sound horrible, but I felt good about calling the police - it let him know that I am not going to take that kind of abuse and I'm not afraid to act.
lamallcool - I like!
I am very proud that I remained so calm. We have had fights before and I screamed back, this time though there was such a calm, but that seemed to only infuriate him more. He may be an old man - 82 or so - but he is extremely strong and fit - you would never ever say he was that old.
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I called the police.
by LouBelle ini stay at my grandmother's house and pay a little rent to her (r500) as it is all i can afford.
i do however buy and take care of all my own food, washing etc.. this morning at 6 am, my bedroom door opend, slammed shut, heard the key turn a couple of times, open and slam shut again.
i woke up with a fright as that has never happened....first thought is someone is in the house.
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LouBelle
I stay at my grandmother's house and pay a little rent to her (R500) as it is all I can afford. I do however buy and take care of all my own food, washing etc.
This morning at 6 am, my bedroom door opend, slammed shut, heard the key turn a couple of times, open and slam shut again. I woke up with a fright as that has never happened....first thought is someone is in the house. However it was my grandfather - he came into my room uninvited and stole my bedroom door key.
Unfortunately my grandfathe and I do not get along, well he doesn't get along with anyone. I asked him for the key back as I keep my room locked so he can't intefere with my stuff, plus my dad's safe is in my dresser. The man launched into a violent attack. I though he was going to punch / hit / attack me. He called me all sorts of filty names from C**T to whore to b*tch - you name it. I kept so calm and explained that if he needs access to the room (the electric board is in my room) he need only ask and I will grant him access. That sent him into another verbal barrage of abuse screaming it was his house (which it's not) and then more filthy expletives.
This is not the first time it's happened with me or his other tennant, who he actually did punch. My grandfather has a history of violence, beating his wife and children.
I called the police and laid a complaint. They advised me to get the court to grant a protection order against him and open up a case file. I cannot move out as I have no where to go. I will be opening up that case file.....just in case he does get it in his head to personally harm me while I sleep.
Actually - I could put a lock on the inside of them room - that is what I'll do, so at least when I'm in my room I can still lock it - knowing him though he'd bash the door down - he's mentally unstable.
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Dear watchtower bible and tract society, governing body, and all of your twisted teachings...
by OneDayillBeFree inafter today's watchtower study which was basically a mind controlling article about shunning your loved disfellowshipped ones, i've come to see just how sick, twisted, vile, rotten, repulsive, disgusting, and just plain evil you all are.
so i stormed out.
i don't know if i'll ever come back to your meetings again.
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LouBelle
My one cousin is in that faith (I'm pretty sure he is gay for a number of reasons I won't go into here) I have texted him on a couple of occasions and said that I know he has been down and sad and if there was anything I could do to help him or if he just wanted coffee, to contact me and we could go chat.......not a peep.........now I know why.
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DA'd vs. DF'd
by Suraj Khan insunday's wt study really opened some old wounds in my family.
by age 13 i was faking illnesses just to get out of thursday and sunday meetings.
i stopped attending altogether at age 17 and headed to college, never really looking back.
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LouBelle
True - never baptised! That makes the difference.
May ask - do you really want to pick at a scab? Do you really want to start opening all that shit up again? You may want answers but if you have been pretty okay and happy these past years, don't let it get to you now.
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Crisis of Conscience ...should we sell the book or keep it?
by Latte inwe have a copy of this book and are wondering if we should sell it...is it worth anything?.
amazon says it's worth 20 dollars.
will it ever get to be worth more if we keep hold of it?.
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LouBelle
I would say keep it for your own reference - it's always good to go back and have another read. If you really don't want it - give it to someone who may benefit from it. If you want money for it, sell it on E-bay.
I really don't think it will ever be more than it's retail price - it's not like it's a first addition Harry Potter and The Philosopher's stone....
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An elder called me.
by Julia Orwell inan elder who handled the minor matter with my husband a few weeks ago called to see how we were doing.
this guy genuinely is a gentle, kind, man whom the congregation loves.
he's the one everyone approaches because he never judges or condescends.
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LouBelle
hmmm - I'm going to perhaps come across a little harsh here as I don't know the men you speak of. I have had the same thing: Elders coming to me about their loving concerns....etc Men that I have known since a little girl and thought of them as my second family - however that drastically changed when I stood my ground.
To me it sounds like: good cop / bad cop.
I would encourage you to do your fade, don't allow men in ties back into your home.
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How do I tell my husband?
by dissonance_resolved ini'm a born in, baptized as a young teenager, whole family is jw.
i just recently woke up after the new understanding of the fds was announced and it seemed to me to smack of power-grabbing.
i started looking at all the websites we're not supposed to, and now i know why.
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LouBelle
hey DisRes - good for you for waking up. There is great advise on here. One cannot unload onto unsuspecting JW's - they've got to question the doctrines themselves.
You could distance yourself from more meetings...start making plans on meeting nights, go away etc...just little things for now. You'll have to find a way to slowly introduce questions.