the term jehovah was the invention of a catholic monk (raymundus martini) in ad 1202, that name may not appear in scripture, because there existed not until the 12th century, so the jw can not say that appears 7,000 times in scripture, de hecho, in fact, this name is linked with that of demologia and illuminati,.
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all the people go and worship who ? jehovah. jehovah is not God.
Listen carefully.
Jehovah = God. It's just a name.
Doesn't matter whether you're a believer or not. The only difference is that believers think Jehovah is real.
If I like chocolate icecream, and someone calls 'chocolate' blargle, and then someone else says blargle is 'really' strawberry, it doesn't mean I 'really' like strawberry icecream instead of chocolate.
i was recently acquainted with the exhaustive - and blatantly inaccurate and crazy - theorizing by a "dr thomas", the "founder" of the christadelphians.. he was an earlier "contemporary" of chuck russell - and some have accused russell of "stealing" the christadelphians main teachings.
they're probably correct in their accusation.
christadelphians do not believe in the trinity or hellfire, are conscientious objectors who do not vote and who hate catholicism and are scathing in their views of christendom - although like all "decent" religious groups, jws included, have toned down their rabid attacks on other religious groups in recent decades.. dr thomas's quaint - and hilariously self-important - interpretation of scripture, led him on several occasions to predict the end of the world in his own day.
And Jeffro, worldwide JWs are still increasing faster than the general population.
Decreases in growth rates in developed nations are offset by growth in third-world countries (get some members in a few countries where it's typical to have 8 or 9 kids, and boom, a JW factory), but this kind of growth is not sustainable. I think it is the 'beginning of the end' (since about the late 90s) for the JW religion, but 'the end' will go on for a long while yet. 2014 will be a catalyst for many JWs psychologically; apart from that it, it will probably be 15-20 years before significant declines in numbers. But even with a significantly diminised membership, the religion will probably go on in some form for much longer.
Comatose:
I just realized Lars hasn't posted in weeks? Wow.
The last thread Lars posted on was locked by Simon. Maybe his account was also blocked. Or maybe he's taking his medication.
Este:
The year 2016 will be the end of ninety generations since Abraham if you calculate one generation to be 42 years. This generation will by no means pass away until all of these things take place. However the days will be cut short on account of the chosen ones, so something significant has to happen shortly that will cause fear among the nations.......look for it in the headlines.......
Oh no. Not another one.
god's real name and identity yhvh.
yhwh - fraudulent identity.. .
can we all sue wt for evidenced fraud and deliberate deception ??
its the devil not God
It's really not. It's just not God either.
the term jehovah was the invention of a catholic monk (raymundus martini) in ad 1202, that name may not appear in scripture, because there existed not until the 12th century, so the jw can not say that appears 7,000 times in scripture, de hecho, in fact, this name is linked with that of demologia and illuminati,.
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mP:
Before you jump on me, go read about the magic rocks on the high priests chest, urim and thuranim(sp). THis is how they communicated with Jehovah for hundreds of years.
Urim and thummim.
THrowing dumb rocks and then making stories up, all the while soliciting gold, money and obedience from the peoples.
And don't forget about the best bits of meat being reserved for the priests too.
the term jehovah was the invention of a catholic monk (raymundus martini) in ad 1202, that name may not appear in scripture, because there existed not until the 12th century, so the jw can not say that appears 7,000 times in scripture, de hecho, in fact, this name is linked with that of demologia and illuminati,.
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we have to use their format to show them there has been a big deception. they have been tricked.
But they haven't been 'tricked' in the manner you say they have. In regard to the deity JWs worship, they have only been 'tricked' as much as any member of any Abrahamic religion. The claim that 'Jehovah = Satan' isn't any kind of explanation. It's just wrong.
There are plenty of ways of showing JWs objective things about their beliefs rather than quibbling about subjective semantics.
How about the anthropological evidence of continuous civilisations all over the planet long before the timespans posited by the 'Noah's Ark' or 'Adam and Eve' stories (both of which they take literally)?
How about the great amount of evidence showing that not even the Bible supports their beliefs about 607BCE?
What about the many (many) contradictions found in the Bible?
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the term jehovah was the invention of a catholic monk (raymundus martini) in ad 1202, that name may not appear in scripture, because there existed not until the 12th century, so the jw can not say that appears 7,000 times in scripture, de hecho, in fact, this name is linked with that of demologia and illuminati,.
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These are equal and parallel texts, chronicles and samuel, shows that the name Jehovah, with Hebrew letters, was none other than Satan, is interesting because there were the scribes caught her son called brood of vipers and children of his father the Devil, the Creator never called Jehovah, nor in any way.
'Satan' (capital S) didn't exist in Jewish folklore at the time. It just meant any opposer as a generic term. The invention of the 'Satan' character as an individual is much more recent. The Genesis story (along with some other OT references) were later retconned by Christians to identify the 'snake'/'opposer' as 'Satan'.
the term jehovah was the invention of a catholic monk (raymundus martini) in ad 1202, that name may not appear in scripture, because there existed not until the 12th century, so the jw can not say that appears 7,000 times in scripture, de hecho, in fact, this name is linked with that of demologia and illuminati,.
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Brother of the Hawk:
And there you have it, the God that is know to Jehovah's witnesses, is an invented GOD
Sigh. All gods are invented. Regardless of when a new name was made up in any particular language, JWs worship the same fictional Canaanite deity as all Abrahamic religions.
i was recently acquainted with the exhaustive - and blatantly inaccurate and crazy - theorizing by a "dr thomas", the "founder" of the christadelphians.. he was an earlier "contemporary" of chuck russell - and some have accused russell of "stealing" the christadelphians main teachings.
they're probably correct in their accusation.
christadelphians do not believe in the trinity or hellfire, are conscientious objectors who do not vote and who hate catholicism and are scathing in their views of christendom - although like all "decent" religious groups, jws included, have toned down their rabid attacks on other religious groups in recent decades.. dr thomas's quaint - and hilariously self-important - interpretation of scripture, led him on several occasions to predict the end of the world in his own day.
slimboyfat:
Where exactly are JWs already decreasing? Denmark and a couple of other small countries. That's about it. Everywhere else they are still increasing, albeit at a slower rate than in the past. But a slow increase is still an increase, and multiplied by however long you want it never equals decline.
True, but in many countries, the increase in JWs isn't keeping up with the increase in population. Proportionally, this represents a decline.
