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  Lost aoul

  by LostSoulUK in

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  hi everyone, i just joined and i have been lost a long time, growing up i was a witness with my mum.

  i walked away when i was older, did drugs, sex, travelling all my life never stopping anywhere more than 3 months my entire life, relationship after relationship, pain and hurt after pain and hurt.

  i always felt like there was something missing, and tried to find what it was.

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  Your JW mother sends you pictures of the “rapture”? Hmmm…
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  2025 Convention Theme leak

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
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  according to the next boe letter to be read at next week's midweek meetings in the united states,.

  the theme of the convention for next year is.

  pure worship.

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  Jeffro

  The 2018 publication Pure Worship of Jehovah - Restored at Last! devotes a section to providing "evidence" that "God's people" were chosen in 1919.

  Teaching Box 9B—Why 1919?
  
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  Are you glad you got the Covid Vaccine? Did it help?

  by liam in

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  2. current

  i didn’t get the covid vaccine, but i admit, i was scared as shit i made the wrong decision because there was so much confusion out there.

  practically all my family and most of my friends took the vaccine because everyone was depending on those in charge to speak the truth.

  now a lot of them are sick, and they can't figure out why.

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  MMM:

  There absolutely was a better way to handle it, and it was no secret during the pandemic: inform the public of the risks, and let them naturally do what's best based on their risk profile.
  The problem was that from the start of the pandemic the relevant risk information was suppressed and hidden as much as possible.

  Some people like to tout this conspiracy that information was ‘suppressed’. Back in reality, details were unknown rather than suppressed, particularly at the beginning of the pandemic. Unlike armchair experts who ‘do their own research’ by watching conspiracy nutters on YouTube, national health services had to do actual research rather than vacillating from one pet theory to another. They intentionally erred on the side of caution to try to minimise the number of deaths, which resulted in varying degrees of inconvenience but a lot fewer deaths than might have otherwise been the case. But for people who can’t see beyond their tiresome political biases, everything is a grand conspiracy.
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  Are you glad you got the Covid Vaccine? Did it help?

  by liam in

  1. social
  2. current

  i didn’t get the covid vaccine, but i admit, i was scared as shit i made the wrong decision because there was so much confusion out there.

  practically all my family and most of my friends took the vaccine because everyone was depending on those in charge to speak the truth.

  now a lot of them are sick, and they can't figure out why.

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  Jeffro

  liam:

  LOL, you sound like my grandfather. [irrelevant anecdote…]

  Well that was an odd little spiel of tedious misdirection 🤦‍♂️

  Whether government health services around the world did the best things they could have done is debatable. But they were able to prevent a similar proportion of the population dying as during the Spanish flu by having lockdowns and vaccination programs. The ‘anti-vaxxer’ crowd (including that portion who ‘aren’t against all vaccines, just the covid ones’), with their misinformation, wilful ignorance, and no better solutions for managing a pandemic, are supremely ungrateful for the result that allowed health services to not be totally swamped. But aside from all of that, claiming lockdowns around the world was ‘just to prevent Trump being president’ is off-the-wall unhinged crazy.
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  Are you glad you got the Covid Vaccine? Did it help?

  by liam in

  1. social
  2. current

  i didn’t get the covid vaccine, but i admit, i was scared as shit i made the wrong decision because there was so much confusion out there.

  practically all my family and most of my friends took the vaccine because everyone was depending on those in charge to speak the truth.

  now a lot of them are sick, and they can't figure out why.

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  Jeffro

  It’s becoming evident that there was Never a need for a world Lock Down. It was all orchestrated to prevent Trump from being President

  🤦‍♂️ So… full conspiretard then. Complete with unnecessary formatting and misplaced capital letters. 🙄
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  Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

  by jwundubbed in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i found out recently that michelangelo's painting of adam on the sistine chapel depicts him without a belly button.

  i had never noticed this before and it makes sense that neither adam nor eve would have belly buttons, not having been born in the usual way.

  then i realized all the first animals were created rather than born, according to the religious views of the origin of life.

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  Poor Sea Breeze simply ignores the work of actual biologists who have already established that cells could have developed from simpler forms that became more complex over time. Instead, the creationist, as usual, expects non-biologists to be experts in the field, while maintaining the contradictory belief that an infinitely complex deity just always existed. 🤦‍♂️

  The argument from ignorance is tedious and unsophisticated. Try something else.
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  Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

  by jwundubbed in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i found out recently that michelangelo's painting of adam on the sistine chapel depicts him without a belly button.

  i had never noticed this before and it makes sense that neither adam nor eve would have belly buttons, not having been born in the usual way.

  then i realized all the first animals were created rather than born, according to the religious views of the origin of life.

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  Jeffro

  How is your statement different than saying a Boeing 747 making a trans-atlantic flight never needed any engineering because there aren't any engineers on board?

  🤦‍♂️

  More argument from ignorance. I know you think you said something clever, but Boeings have never been observed to self-replicate. Because the premise of your tedious analogy assumes your conclusion, it is logically invalid.

  Come back when you have evidence for an infinitely complex sky friend that just always existed. And then you can try to justify the inherent special pleading. 🤣
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  Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

  by jwundubbed in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i found out recently that michelangelo's painting of adam on the sistine chapel depicts him without a belly button.

  i had never noticed this before and it makes sense that neither adam nor eve would have belly buttons, not having been born in the usual way.

  then i realized all the first animals were created rather than born, according to the religious views of the origin of life.

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  Jeffro

  See Breeze:

  The non-Christian physicist Paul Davies

  Fallacious appeal to authority (on top of the purported ploy that he’s ‘non-Christian’), since he isn’t a biologist. Analogies about ‘information’ are not evidence of ‘design’, and these chemical reactions in biological systems happen every second of every day without any need of magical sky friends. Systems become more complex over time rather than more simple so none of this is particularly compelling, and it remains a tedious argument from ignorance at its core.
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  The evidence that fluoride lowers IQ is stronger than what was thought

  by What-A-Coincidence in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  fluoride action network.

  http://www.fluoridealert.org.

  fan bulletin 997: new video: vyvyan howard's toronto presentation.

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  Me earlier:

  Unless fluoridation is the only thing that changed in the last 100 years, this doesn’t math.

  (This was a cheap shot for comic effect, and the original comment referred to modern society in general rather than only fluoridation. However, it didn’t account for longer life expectancy and higher diagnosis rates also contributing to the increase in the number of deaths attributed to cancer rather than solely the ills of modern society. So it still doesn’t math.)
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  The evidence that fluoride lowers IQ is stronger than what was thought

  by What-A-Coincidence in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  fluoride action network.

  http://www.fluoridealert.org.

  fan bulletin 997: new video: vyvyan howard's toronto presentation.

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  Jeffro

  The amount of fluoride in community based water fluoridation is typically well below the levels associated with fluoride levels in studies affecting children’s IQ. Factors such as excessive TikTok use (ideally, none) are probably impacting children’s IQ levels more than fluoridation might.