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  Jehovah's Witness Governing Body, (New Light Division) Are Vegetable Oils not more important than Beards?

  by was a new boy in

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  'use vegetable oil and soft margarine in place of animal fat,'.

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101997444?q=vegetable+oil&p=par.

  'when possible, cook with unsaturated vegetable oils.'.

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  Teddnzo:

  Then they even say to heat the seed oils to very high temperatures. This advice is so very harmful.

  ”Cook the food until it is very hot. ”

  Did they though? Or are you just selectively quoting the source to push a narrative? The actual statement from the source says:

  Cook food until it is very hot. Food, including the innermost portions of meat, must reach 70 degrees Celsius (160°F) for at least 30 seconds.

  The smoke point of all of the common refined cooking oils is well above those temperatures. They vary, but generally over 200°C (392°F). And they weren't even specifically talking about heating seed oils.

  Teddnzo:
  

  I just can’t believe They really did say that egg yolk is harmful
  

  No. They said:

  Another way to decrease cholesterol in your diet is to reduce your consumption of egg yolks to one or two per week;

  If someone has high cholesterol and wants to lower it, that's one thing they can do. If someone is not concerned about high cholesterol, they might choose to eat more egg yolks and other tasty things.

  What is more interesting about the Awake! article from 1997 is that it presents recommendations from the World Health Organisation during the period that the Watch Tower Society was registered as an NGO in association with the UN. One of the requirements of that status was to support and disseminate information related to UN objectives.
  
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  Sorcery = Pharmakeia

  by KerryKing in

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  rev18:23 '....you deceived the nations with your sorceries'.. the interlinear for sorceries reads pharmakeia.. bible hub has some interesting definitions, i'll try to share screenshots below.

  the gist of it is that sorcery involves drugs/medicines/poisons, with or without spells, sorcery is not the same as witchcraft or divination, or white/black magic.

  i have long wondered about the connection between the medical/pharmaceutical industry's symbol of the serpent wrapped around a pole/stake, and the use of the word pharmaceuticals/pharmacy.. considering the common use of fluoride in public drinking water, nsaids with side effects such as depression, brain fog, dizziness, and opioids, mrna gene therapy, vaccines and so on, i wonder am i going mad, are these all coincidences??

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  🙄 It’s called a metaphor. The author of Revelation was expressing a view that contemporary Rome had corrupted the minds of the people of its client kingdoms in a way similar to how minds can be affected by drugs. No conspiracy. No great mystery. Nothing relevant to anything happening now.
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  Jehovah's Witness Governing Body, (New Light Division) Are Vegetable Oils not more important than Beards?

  by was a new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  'use vegetable oil and soft margarine in place of animal fat,'.

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101997444?q=vegetable+oil&p=par.

  'when possible, cook with unsaturated vegetable oils.'.

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  Just because margarine isn’t plastic 🙄, it doesn’t mean that the types of fat in margarine are necessarily good for you. Hydrogenated vegetable oils contain trans fats, which are associated with health problems. They are found in many processed foods, not just margarine. Not all margarine products contain hydrogenated oils.

  Problems with seed oils generally relate to heating them beyond their smoke point causing changes to the chemical composition (no, still not plastic), as well as overconsumption (which often goes along with overconsumption of unhealthy foods generally).
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  Jehovah's Witness Governing Body, (New Light Division) Are Vegetable Oils not more important than Beards?

  by was a new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  'use vegetable oil and soft margarine in place of animal fat,'.

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101997444?q=vegetable+oil&p=par.

  'when possible, cook with unsaturated vegetable oils.'.

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  As for margarine and shortening, go ahead and eat it--if you enjoy eating plastic. That is what these abominations are, plastic.

  I saw the thread title and scanned the thread for the ignorant trope that ‘margarine is plastic’. Sure enough. 🤦‍♂️

  Plastic is a polymer of hydrocarbons. Margarine is an emulsion of water and fats. Margarine is chemically similar to… butter.
  
  
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  Lost aoul

  by LostSoulUK in

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  hi everyone, i just joined and i have been lost a long time, growing up i was a witness with my mum.

  i walked away when i was older, did drugs, sex, travelling all my life never stopping anywhere more than 3 months my entire life, relationship after relationship, pain and hurt after pain and hurt.

  i always felt like there was something missing, and tried to find what it was.

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  Your JW mother sends you pictures of the “rapture”? Hmmm…
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  2025 Convention Theme leak

  by ukpimo in

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  according to the next boe letter to be read at next week's midweek meetings in the united states,.

  the theme of the convention for next year is.

  pure worship.

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  The 2018 publication Pure Worship of Jehovah - Restored at Last! devotes a section to providing "evidence" that "God's people" were chosen in 1919.

  Teaching Box 9B—Why 1919?
  
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  Are you glad you got the Covid Vaccine? Did it help?

  by liam in

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  i didn’t get the covid vaccine, but i admit, i was scared as shit i made the wrong decision because there was so much confusion out there.

  practically all my family and most of my friends took the vaccine because everyone was depending on those in charge to speak the truth.

  now a lot of them are sick, and they can't figure out why.

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  MMM:

  There absolutely was a better way to handle it, and it was no secret during the pandemic: inform the public of the risks, and let them naturally do what's best based on their risk profile.
  The problem was that from the start of the pandemic the relevant risk information was suppressed and hidden as much as possible.

  Some people like to tout this conspiracy that information was ‘suppressed’. Back in reality, details were unknown rather than suppressed, particularly at the beginning of the pandemic. Unlike armchair experts who ‘do their own research’ by watching conspiracy nutters on YouTube, national health services had to do actual research rather than vacillating from one pet theory to another. They intentionally erred on the side of caution to try to minimise the number of deaths, which resulted in varying degrees of inconvenience but a lot fewer deaths than might have otherwise been the case. But for people who can’t see beyond their tiresome political biases, everything is a grand conspiracy.
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  Are you glad you got the Covid Vaccine? Did it help?

  by liam in

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  i didn’t get the covid vaccine, but i admit, i was scared as shit i made the wrong decision because there was so much confusion out there.

  practically all my family and most of my friends took the vaccine because everyone was depending on those in charge to speak the truth.

  now a lot of them are sick, and they can't figure out why.

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  liam:

  LOL, you sound like my grandfather. [irrelevant anecdote…]

  Well that was an odd little spiel of tedious misdirection 🤦‍♂️

  Whether government health services around the world did the best things they could have done is debatable. But they were able to prevent a similar proportion of the population dying as during the Spanish flu by having lockdowns and vaccination programs. The ‘anti-vaxxer’ crowd (including that portion who ‘aren’t against all vaccines, just the covid ones’), with their misinformation, wilful ignorance, and no better solutions for managing a pandemic, are supremely ungrateful for the result that allowed health services to not be totally swamped. But aside from all of that, claiming lockdowns around the world was ‘just to prevent Trump being president’ is off-the-wall unhinged crazy.
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  Are you glad you got the Covid Vaccine? Did it help?

  by liam in

  1. social
  2. current

  i didn’t get the covid vaccine, but i admit, i was scared as shit i made the wrong decision because there was so much confusion out there.

  practically all my family and most of my friends took the vaccine because everyone was depending on those in charge to speak the truth.

  now a lot of them are sick, and they can't figure out why.

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  It’s becoming evident that there was Never a need for a world Lock Down. It was all orchestrated to prevent Trump from being President

  🤦‍♂️ So… full conspiretard then. Complete with unnecessary formatting and misplaced capital letters. 🙄
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  Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

  by jwundubbed in

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  i found out recently that michelangelo's painting of adam on the sistine chapel depicts him without a belly button.

  i had never noticed this before and it makes sense that neither adam nor eve would have belly buttons, not having been born in the usual way.

  then i realized all the first animals were created rather than born, according to the religious views of the origin of life.

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  Poor Sea Breeze simply ignores the work of actual biologists who have already established that cells could have developed from simpler forms that became more complex over time. Instead, the creationist, as usual, expects non-biologists to be experts in the field, while maintaining the contradictory belief that an infinitely complex deity just always existed. 🤦‍♂️

  The argument from ignorance is tedious and unsophisticated. Try something else.