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  What evidence is there for a biblical jesus?

  by Touchofgrey in

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  is there any independently verified evidence that a miracle worker called jesus existed and did the things that the bible said he did?.

  the four gospels were written by unknown authors many decades after the so called events, so can't be considered as eyewitness accounts.

  i think that there may have been a apocalyptic preacher who was executed by the romans and the story evolved from their.

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  Jeffro

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  Proof of two destinies for believers in the Bible, heavenly and earthly

  by slimboyfat in

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  the jw idea that believers are destined either for heavenly life or for endless life on earth comes in for significant criticism by critics of various kinds.

  even some groups, such as the christadelphians, who share belief in a future paradise earth, don’t share the view that some christians are destined for life in heaven.

  yet there is surprisingly quite a lot of evidence in the bible for the existence of two distinct groups of believers.

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  Jeffro

  John spoke figuratively a lot. "In the beginning was the Word." Jesus is not literally a "word" just like he is not literally "light." John speaks figuratively.

  🤦‍♂️ Calling Jesus ‘the word’ (Logos) was directly ripping off a Stoic branch of Greek philosophy. It’s just another pagan concept integrated into Christianity, like their beliefs about the Devil (Persian) and the garden of Eden (Babylonian).
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  What evidence is there for a biblical jesus?

  by Touchofgrey in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is there any independently verified evidence that a miracle worker called jesus existed and did the things that the bible said he did?.

  the four gospels were written by unknown authors many decades after the so called events, so can't be considered as eyewitness accounts.

  i think that there may have been a apocalyptic preacher who was executed by the romans and the story evolved from their.

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  Jeffro

  If you don't believe in Him, then why do you spend so much time talking about Him?

  That tedious line was literally one of the trite example shown in the video, ‘Theresa’. 🤦‍♂️🤣

  You feeling rejected?
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  What evidence is there for a biblical jesus?

  by Touchofgrey in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is there any independently verified evidence that a miracle worker called jesus existed and did the things that the bible said he did?.

  the four gospels were written by unknown authors many decades after the so called events, so can't be considered as eyewitness accounts.

  i think that there may have been a apocalyptic preacher who was executed by the romans and the story evolved from their.

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  Jeffro

  Jehovah mentioned Jesus in the Genesis 3:15 prophecy.
  That was at the beginning of human history.

  No part of that is true.

  Making up theories and fairy tales doesn't negate reality.

  🤣🤣😂🤣😂 see above
  
  
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  What evidence is there for a biblical jesus?

  by Touchofgrey in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is there any independently verified evidence that a miracle worker called jesus existed and did the things that the bible said he did?.

  the four gospels were written by unknown authors many decades after the so called events, so can't be considered as eyewitness accounts.

  i think that there may have been a apocalyptic preacher who was executed by the romans and the story evolved from their.

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  Jeffro

  There’s that tedious word ‘opposers’, which fits into that same ‘rejection’ motivation. 🙄

  And people obviously haven’t been talking about Jesus “since the beginning of human history”. 🤦‍♂️
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  How did JWs arrive at a clearer understanding of what the Bible teaches than other Christian denominations?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for jws who believe that jehovah had a hand in reviving the truth in the nineteenth century this is enough explanation for how jws managed to achieve a closer approximation to early christian beliefs and practices than other groups.

  but is there an explanation for this phenomenon that doesn’t rely on supernatural intervention?

  new testament scholar james dunn explains the difficulty of interpreting the biblical texts in this way:.

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  Jeffro

  How did JWs arrive at a clearer understanding of what the Bible teaches than other Christian denominations?

  They didn’t.
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  Proof of two destinies for believers in the Bible, heavenly and earthly

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jw idea that believers are destined either for heavenly life or for endless life on earth comes in for significant criticism by critics of various kinds.

  even some groups, such as the christadelphians, who share belief in a future paradise earth, don’t share the view that some christians are destined for life in heaven.

  yet there is surprisingly quite a lot of evidence in the bible for the existence of two distinct groups of believers.

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  Jeffro

  Yet there is surprisingly quite a lot of evidence in the Bible for the existence of two distinct groups of believers. This is especially evident in the book of Revelation, which makes sense if JWs are correct that this prophetic book projects forward to the period when the second group of believers with an earthly destiny is to be gathered.

  As far as ‘believers’ go, JWs couldn’t have it more wrong anyway. Revelation indicates a great crowd in heaven that rules as kings and priests for a thousand years and 144,000 ruling as kings forever from New Jerusalem on earth.
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  Proof of two destinies for believers in the Bible, heavenly and earthly

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jw idea that believers are destined either for heavenly life or for endless life on earth comes in for significant criticism by critics of various kinds.

  even some groups, such as the christadelphians, who share belief in a future paradise earth, don’t share the view that some christians are destined for life in heaven.

  yet there is surprisingly quite a lot of evidence in the bible for the existence of two distinct groups of believers.

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  Jeffro

  Tacking on ‘for believers’ doesn’t actually justify calling any of it ‘proof’.
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  What evidence is there for a biblical jesus?

  by Touchofgrey in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is there any independently verified evidence that a miracle worker called jesus existed and did the things that the bible said he did?.

  the four gospels were written by unknown authors many decades after the so called events, so can't be considered as eyewitness accounts.

  i think that there may have been a apocalyptic preacher who was executed by the romans and the story evolved from their.

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  Jeffro

  🙄

  Ok ‘Theresa’
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  189

  What evidence is there for a biblical jesus?

  by Touchofgrey in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is there any independently verified evidence that a miracle worker called jesus existed and did the things that the bible said he did?.

  the four gospels were written by unknown authors many decades after the so called events, so can't be considered as eyewitness accounts.

  i think that there may have been a apocalyptic preacher who was executed by the romans and the story evolved from their.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  Jeffro

  Why do people disfellowship Jehovah? He didn't disfellowship you.

  Begging the question. You would need to demonstrate that the deity exists first.