The term "holy spirit" is not well defined in the Bible, but whatever it is that it is 'supposed' to be (in the context of the story), Acts 19:2 indicates that it definitely isn't what JWs say it is. If the 'holy spirit' really were just 'God's power', then the disciples of John the Baptist certainly wouldn't say, "we have never heard that there is a holy spirit".
Posts by Jeffro
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24The Myth of being "Spirit Appointed"
by BluesBrother inback in the first century we read that the apostles would "lay their hands" on someone and the holy spirit would be imparted to that one.
appointments of older men were made in this way - at that time.
in modern times the wts has claimed that their own elders ,min.
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Prime Minister of Australia announces intention to revoke Jehovah’s Witnesses charity status
by jwleaks intoday, marking the second anniversary of the australian national apology to victims and survivors of institutional child sexual abuse, the prime minister of australia has announce in federal parliament the intention to place sanctions against the jehovah’s witnesses in relation to child sexual abuse.. quote from prime minister:.
the royal commission [into institutional response to child sexual abuse], the [national] apology [to victims and survivors of institutional child sexual abuse] and these yearly reports are about accountability: bringing the truth into the light ... we still have, reprehensibly, four institutions that have been named publicly and that have blatantly refused to join the redress scheme.
they are jehovah's witnesses ... it's not acceptable.
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Jeffro
In addition to not wanting the financial obligations, as well as not wanting to acknowledge any problem with their policies, the GB also might think that publicly joining such a scheme (that primarily involves other religious organisations) may be perceived as a form of ‘interfaith’.
I suspect that it won’t be specifically covered on their website because that is not easily achieved without drawing attention to their mishandling of abuse cases. But the site might generically bundle Australia in among ‘lands’ where JWs face ‘persecution’.
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1914 a doctrinal lie that created an entire religion the Jehovah's Witnesses
by Finkelstein inwhen you think about it the jws was foundationaly created upon a single core doctrine which was created close to a 100 years ago, that is the doctrinal year of 1914 .. the leader(s) of the ibsa in 1919 proclaimed that jehovah had selectively chosen them or him as it were by j. rutherford, they also self identified themselves as the anointed class the faithful slave.. from all of these expressive endeavors a new religion sprung up eventually calling themselves the jehovah's witnesses.
years and decades followed where more and more people were lured into the faith making themselves subservient devoted members as well, some also identifying themselves as the anointed class.
the jws proclaimed through their leaders (gb) that they were true loyal witnesses to jehovah's will and purpose, but were they really ?
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Jeffro
Finkelstein:
The leader(s) of the IBSA in 1919 proclaimed that Jehovah had selectively chosen them or him as it were by J. Rutherford, they also self identified themselves as the anointed class the Faithful Slave.
But that's not what actually happened. The claim that they were 'chosen' in 1919 was invented much later.
I've dealt with this more here in my review of Pure Worship—Restored at Last, in response to the 'Teaching Box' that attempts to defend their 'selection' of 1919.
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JW's Not Members anymore but Individuals
by pistolpete ini've been waiting for someone to post this and i've haven't seen it yet, perhaps i overlooked it since i don't visit that often.. but here is the link to the discussion.
in it you will find letters and links to this new light.
whether it's true or not, please verify.. as of .
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Jeffro
References to congregation "members" were also removed from the August 2020 revision of Pure Worship, those being the only changes made in that revision.
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Anthony Morris depicts ex-members as ''Despicable Apostates''
by RULES & REGULATIONS inhere is one of the many commandments jesus instructed his twelve apostles to keep, follow, and obey!.
here is anthony morris ( supposedly selected by jehovah to keep, follow and obey the sayings of jesus ) name-calling and condemning enemies!
the pharisees used to label people as well.
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Jeffro
Awake!, 22 June 2000, page 6:
Name-Calling
Some people insult those who disagree with them by questioning character or motives instead of focusing on the facts. Name-calling slaps a negative, easy-to-remember label onto a person, a group, or an idea. The name-caller hopes that the label will stick. If people reject the person or the idea on the basis of the negative label instead of weighing the evidence for themselves, the name-caller’s strategy has worked. -
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2020-10-12--Year End Report! (as of 2020-10-14)
by Atlantis in2020-october-12th.. re: 2020 year end report.
reply below for the link and a milkshake back in the pm section.. https://www.legendairymilkshakebar.com/.
petra!.
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Jeffro
Yes please. 🥤
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Is this how people will be microchipped soon?
by Kosonen ini found an article at zerohedge explaining how a state sponsored microchip will be redy for use in the spring for detecting corona virus infections before people feel symptoms.. the article expect that majority of the people will line up to take it.. i think this will become the mark of the beast revelation 13 speaks about.. hereis the article: .
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/microchipd-darpa-biochip-save-us-covid-can-control-human-dna.
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Jeffro
JoenB75:
Some were sealed for Jesus, some for the beast below.
Not quite. The 'beast' in the latter part of Revelation chapter 13 represented Nero. There is no basis for "below" in the text.
The idea of a chip implant is very possible though and and is of course a dream scenario for the marxist powers that want to control people completely
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Is this how people will be microchipped soon?
by Kosonen ini found an article at zerohedge explaining how a state sponsored microchip will be redy for use in the spring for detecting corona virus infections before people feel symptoms.. the article expect that majority of the people will line up to take it.. i think this will become the mark of the beast revelation 13 speaks about.. hereis the article: .
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/microchipd-darpa-biochip-save-us-covid-can-control-human-dna.
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Kosonen:
I think this will become the mark of the beast Revelation 13 speaks about.
No. Just no.
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"JW Box" $30 Logo Markup Scam!!!! Huge!!!
by thedepressedsoul inso get this, wt has something they're calling a "jw box" that gives people in africa "spiritual food".
the best part, they want donations of $75 for it!
so they don't provide any physical food to people in africa but they can send them "spiritual food" for $75.
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joe134cd:
I’m sorry but I can’t seem to find where they are asking for $75.
Seriously?? The JW web page about it says, "Each box costs approximately $75 U.S.". It is the last sentence of the third paragraph. But if your angle is that they aren't explicitly asking for that amount, it should be obvious that the culture of JWs implies that the suggested donation should be made to 'defray the costs'. The article 'suggests' at the end, "How are the costs of this arrangement covered? By donations to the worldwide work, many of which are made via donate.jw.org. Thank you for your generous support."
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Worldwide preaching campaign targeting government officials.
by smiddy3 indoes anybody know what this message will contain ?
is it designed to provoke a response that will bring persecution on the religion ?
or is it just going to be some meaningless weak campaign to get the rank and file all excited about it and achieving nothing.. or is it going to suggest to the government officials that this mob could very well be the next jonestown /wacol incident and we need to act now.
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LongHairGal:
They must see themselves as the modern day equivalent of Moses going to see Pharaoh.
Indeed. And "modern day" is right, because they don't use the word 'antitypical' as much now , even though they really still think about in the same sense.