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  Watchtower Change On Origins from 42,000 Years to the "Day Age" Theory

  by Sea Breeze in

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  does anyone know when and how the change took place?

  is the "day age" theory still the current position of watchtower?.

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  Jeffro

  They have never expressly changed the view that the ‘creative days’ are 7000 years each. They just don’t mention a specific period anymore. When they do refer to the total length of the ‘creative days’, they say they could have been “many thousands” of years, but never millions or billions. (However, they say that the creation of the universe ‘in the beginning’ up until the initial formation of earth before the ‘creative days’ was "evidently" billions of years, with unconvincing apologetics regarding the contradiction this creates with Genesis 1:16.) Their view remains a form of day-age creationism.

  It seems that 1987 was the last time they explicitly said the 'creative days' were each 7000 years. The Watchtower, 1 January 1987, p. 30:
  

  Second, a study of the fulfillment of Bible prophecy and of our location in the stream of time strongly indicate that each of the creative days (Genesis, chapter 1) is 7,000 years long.
  
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  Do You Get Easily Offended By What People Do or Don’t Do?

  by minimus in

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  does using uncle ben’s food products offend you?.

  are you offended if you see a flag?

  what about a confederate flag?.

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  minimus:

  They probably do? You’re a phony

  That's the best you've got? My casual use of the word 'probably' is 'problematic' for you? But you're the one who keeps posting things - from Murdoch sources - that you're 'offended' about (which often includes misinformation). I'm just responding to the nonsense you've provided. Unlike you, I don't seek out this nonsense.
  

  snare&racket:

  If you feel offended by the feelings or speech or actions of someone with differing view to your own.... that is for you to deal with, not the other party.

  Exactly. The people who complain that they're 'offended' are just as tedious as the tendentious responses to such nonsense. But that doesn't mean some commercial entity is intrinsically 'wrong' for rebranding something that is supposedly offensive if they figure they'll make more money by changing (though this often backfires). Some people seem to think that for-profit companies are providing a public service. 🤦‍♂️

  It is particularly odd that some people suddenly become so attached to some cartoon character or product mascot when it is 'attacked' for being 'offensive' when they otherwise would have been completely ambivalent about it.
  
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  Do You Get Easily Offended By What People Do or Don’t Do?

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  does using uncle ben’s food products offend you?.

  are you offended if you see a flag?

  what about a confederate flag?.

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  minimus:

  CNN has derisive rhetoric. MSNBC. The New York Times. The Daily News. The Washington Post.

  They probably do. And if I see a thread on here using their divisive nonsense I’ll say so. But the majority of recent divisive threads of this nature on this forum seem to be yours, and they are primarily (if not totally) drawn from the Murdoch press.
  
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  Do You Get Easily Offended By What People Do or Don’t Do?

  by minimus in

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  does using uncle ben’s food products offend you?.

  are you offended if you see a flag?

  what about a confederate flag?.

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  minimus:

  Jeffro has issues with the Murdoch press. Talks about any newspapers he doesn’t like.

  Just an observation of where a lot of the divisive rhetoric comes from. If I’d seen it coming from somewhere else, I would say so. Doesn’t seem as though you’re making any legitimate point.
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  Do You Get Easily Offended By What People Do or Don’t Do?

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  does using uncle ben’s food products offend you?.

  are you offended if you see a flag?

  what about a confederate flag?.

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  minimus:

  Companies will always look for the bottom line how much money are they going to make or not make.

  Obviously. And?
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  Do You Get Easily Offended By What People Do or Don’t Do?

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  does using uncle ben’s food products offend you?.

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  Jeffro

  Not offended. More disappointed with the presentation of nonsense rather than the nonsense itself.
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  Do You Get Easily Offended By What People Do or Don’t Do?

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  does using uncle ben’s food products offend you?.

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  punkofnice:

  More reason to take things with a pinch of salt. It's all just media pantomime. We're being played it would seem.

  It is very frequently the Murdoch press that promotes these divisive nothings, very often first appearing in its tabloids such as The New York Post, The Sun etc and then recirculated in its other papers and news outlets to pass it off as ‘news’ to pad out a lack of actual content.
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  Do You Get Easily Offended By What People Do or Don’t Do?

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  does using uncle ben’s food products offend you?.

  are you offended if you see a flag?

  what about a confederate flag?.

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  minimus:

  Aunt Jemima offends you?? Get a life and stop getting offended over nothing.

  Sure. But if the company that makes it decides they can make more money by changing the brand, good for them. The people complaining about the rebranding generally aren’t really soooo attached to the Aunt Jemima character that it really affects them. If people are that attached to a fictional character on a cake mix, they should probably get that checked.
  
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  Do You Get Easily Offended By What People Do or Don’t Do?

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  does using uncle ben’s food products offend you?.

  are you offended if you see a flag?

  what about a confederate flag?.

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  Punkofnice:

  When a person starts finding a reason to be offended by the gender of a plastic potato or a brand name, then they need medication not adulation.
  In the good old days, they'd have been sectioned not trending on Twitter (the cesspit safe space for attention seeking nobodies).

  Indeed. It’s best to just ignore this nonsense rather than giving it airtime. (Though in the case of PotatoHead, Hasbro rebranded the brand name to introduce additional characters but retained the Mr and Mrs PotatoHead characters so there is also some misinformation involved here.)

  Are some companies jumping on the ‘woke’ bandwagon? Sure. Does it actually affect the people complaining about it? No.
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  Accepting the reason why the Watchtower Corporation and its top leaders are endeavored to brainwash people

  by Rocketman123 in

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  taking a close look at the operation of the jws religion you can observe technics of brainwashing orchestrated through the literature the wts publishes for its members such as the watchtower .. everything these men have done had calculating agendas, which were to firstly attract attention to the literature they published, to cultivate power toward themselves, to intentionally take control over people's lives and of course draw in money.. brainwashing (also known as mind control, menticide, coercive persuasion, thought control, thought reform, and re-education) is the concept that the human mind can be altered or controlled by certain psychological techniques.

  brainwashing is said to reduce its subjects' ability to think critically or independently,[1] to allow the introduction of new, unwanted thoughts and ideas into their minds,[2] as well as to change their attitudes, values and beliefs.

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  Actual brainwashing involves subtle manipulation techniques. But the average JW (along with victims of other high-control groups) will say, “of course I wasn’t brainwashed” because a moustachioed villain didn’t spin a spiral in front of them.