I noticed that they have started reporting activity for Monaco, and they call it a 100% increase over the previous year. That isn’t how math works.
Posts by Jeffro
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88Annual Report
by St George of England inthe latest report is now available for download on our favourite website!.
george.
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by St George of England inthe latest report is now available for download on our favourite website!.
george.
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Jeffro
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9142413/#:~:text=Research%20from%20the%202014%20Religious,JWs%20converted%20into%20the%20faith.
Too busy at the moment for this nonsense.
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by St George of England inthe latest report is now available for download on our favourite website!.
george.
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Jeffro
I can’t dumb it down any more than I already have.
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by St George of England inthe latest report is now available for download on our favourite website!.
george.
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Jeffro
I’m just trying to work out why you think this is a reason to discount JW growth compared with other groups.
🤦♂️ Do you need everything explained to you?
If I have 5 apples and I eat four, then I buy 2 apples, I have 3 apples.
If Jane has 5 apples and eats only 1 apple, then buys 2 apples, she has 6 apples.
Jane has a higher apple retention rate regardless of separate factors related to growth.
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Jesus Christ Will Arrive Within The Next Four Minutes! (parody)
by Nathan Natas inyes, you read that correctly!.
jesus h. christ will arrive within the next four minutes!
in fact, by the time you read this, he may have alreadt arrrived!.
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Jeffro
joey jojo:
I just know what you say is true because you have used the internet to confirm that you arent a crackpot.
Yeah, it’s always best to “do your own research” by checking obscure YouTube channels and Reddit threads for this type of stuff. Don’t concern yourself with pesky ‘facts’ from reliable sources—they’re probably put there by demonses anyway.
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by St George of England inthe latest report is now available for download on our favourite website!.
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Jeffro
It sounds like you’re saying that because there is a reason for JW growth therefore the growth doesn’t count.
🤦♂️ Sure, whatever gets you through the night. 🙄 That paragraph was fairly obviously about retention rather than growth, but you can spin it however you like.
JWs do also have a very high churn rate compared to other denominations, with a non-trivial proportion of short-term members briefly affiliated and leaving but this is a separate category of members to those impacted by the previously mentioned retention issues.
More specifically, perhaps you’re saying that JW growth is morally tarnished because it’s accomplished by a practice you don’t approve.
Oh goody, a straw man. Who cares about what people actually say if you can just make up their opinion for them. 🤷♂️
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by St George of England inthe latest report is now available for download on our favourite website!.
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Jeffro
Clearly the birth/ POMI / fence sitters rate is superseding the apathy that exists with in, as demonstrated by the census. What other conclusion can you come to.
It’s more complex than that. POMIs (etc) could be offset by families with multiple children who are counted as JWs in the census. This could also include spouses and adult children in the household who are counted as JWs by the ‘head of the house’ completing the census form.
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Jesus Christ Will Arrive Within The Next Four Minutes! (parody)
by Nathan Natas inyes, you read that correctly!.
jesus h. christ will arrive within the next four minutes!
in fact, by the time you read this, he may have alreadt arrrived!.
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Jeffro
Where do I sign up?
(And for all the naysayers, clearly he really means 4 minutes starting from 4 minutes before the end.)
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by St George of England inthe latest report is now available for download on our favourite website!.
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Jeffro
JeffT:
It looks like they are no longer publishing the stat I like most: total hours in service.
They can’t. It isn’t being reported by most members anymore.
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by St George of England inthe latest report is now available for download on our favourite website!.
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Jeffro
sbf:
It’s an odd thing on this forum. Since I first joined in 2000 posters have continually insisted, year in year out, that JWs are in decline, yet between 2000 and now JWs increased from less than 6 million to over 9 million.
It is true that some have incorrectly said the denomination is in actual decline. But what you seem to be misrepresenting, here and on other occasions, is that others including myself have correctly stated that their growth rate has declined. And this remains the case in real terms despite their twiddling of the metrics.
Additionally, we all know that direct comparisons with other churches are invalid where there is no (or trivial) social impediment to leaving the church. This includes denominations that nominally ‘excommunicate’/‘disfellowship’ supposedly errant members but use the terms in a manner that does not actually involve shunning but just excludes them from attending religious services.