One song has the phrase "present truth" in it. They obviously don't know the definition of the word truth.
I was at in international convention in Vancouver in I think 1972 or near then and on one of the songs the speaker had the men only sing part and the women only sing part. I think it was:
Women: "What will you bring, Jehovah's Kingdom?"
Men: "Triumph of truth and righteousness"
Women: "And bring what else, Jehovah's Kingdom?"
Men: "Eternal life and happiness"
Everyone: "Praise the universal sovereign, for his love and faithfullness."
I was young then but it stuck with me how much emphasis was put on men being the authority over women. It just seemed a strange thing to do and even as a kid I thought that it sounded somewhat demeaning to women.
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by gringojj ini was at the dc this weekend and one thing caught my attention.
i just found it very odd to use the words "theocratic arrangement" in a hymn.
it makes the idea of god feel so commercialized.
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Article from: The Brooklyn Daily Eagle (07-20-2005)
by ljwtiamb infeatures
the insular world of the jehovahs witnesses bethel
by sarah ryley ([email protected]), published online 07-20-2005
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thom
Flashbacks:
"are printed closer to where they are being shipped, all across the world, said Garth Tiglas, the tour guide for 25 Columbia Heights"
Garth and I were good friends in the years preceeding his going to Bethel. He's very overzealous (what we called him then) but one of the nicest people you could ever meet. I watched him become a JW in his early 20's and eat it up and dive in deep. From what I understand, he's never once come up for air and it's been about 20 years now.
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What is your quirkiest quirk?
by damselfly ini, damselfly, can not knowingly eat the little squiggly, umbilical cord things in eggs.
i have to very carefully separate the whites from the yolk and remove the squiggly bits with a knife.
i get gaggy just thinking about them.
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Nothing is ever clean enough. I can clean the whole house then try to sit down, but I have to get up every 30 seconds because I see something else to clean. I'm never happy with it and all I see is the "filth" all over the place even though it's probably pretty clean.
Also, if I see my shoulder out of the corner of my eye I MUST then see my other shoulder the same way. I try and try to not do it, but I have to! Until I do I can't possibly think of anything else and I feel like I'm going to explode.
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Answering Techniques
by PopeOfEruke inwhat was your technique for answering at the wt study?.
were you one of the types who waited, sweating silently, till the last or second-last paragraph, then finally put your hand up and hope like crazy they picked someone else?
remember the dry throat??
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I didn't like answering, but I did it. Always hoped he'd call on me the first time so I wouldn't have to raise my hand later. Then of course the next answer would be the same as mine, just reworded.
One sister used to answer and just say what she thought should be brought out, nothing to do with the question. I learned to never call on her during the service meeting (only Q/A parts I gave) even though she'd always have her hand up before the question was asked, and also while other people were answering. -
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"you'll soon look like you live under a bridge"
I guess I shouldn't have used a picture of me taken while I was digging a trench under a house! I bathe, I swear! -
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"edited to add: SEXY!!"
I may be straight but I have to agree.
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JW Charity?
by Ellie in.
can someone please explain to me why jehovahs witnesses are a registered charity?.
its not like they do anything to help anyone.
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I brought this subject up with some family and of course they feel that JW's probably do more than most any other org to help people.
Listing first of course, "preaching the good news".
Teaching people to read in Africa (so they can read the WT of course).
Being first on the scene in disasters in the U.S. I asked who they help, just other JW's? No, they setup food distribution for everyone in the area and are the only ones properly organized and even the military goes to them for help. I asked where they got this info and it's from the WT of course. I asked if they ever read about this anywhere other than the WT and my grandmother told me, "YES! In newspapers." Pushing her further I find that she's talking about supposed quotes from newspapers she saw in the WT.
I've had a big problem with all the difficulties going on in the world and how JW's do nothing to even try to help. But most JW's I feel, believe that their org is doing wonderful things to help people all over the world. Something I never saw, even as a JW.
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Telling people what they already know
by gringojj ini marvel how the wts says things and makes it seem like the rest of the world didnt know these things until they told them.
i will use the case of a short commercial the wts aired on tv after 9/11.
http://www.jw-media.org/edu_videos/psa_02hi.htm.
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thom
I've been under the impression that the PSA was just another way to show that they are a religious groups, non-profit group, serving the public, whatever it takes to stay tax exempt. I tend to think the sole purpose was financial (stay tax exempt).
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DID YOU EVER 'EMBELLISH' YOUR FIELD SERVICE REPORT???
by chuckyy injust wondering if anyone ever did put down more hours/placements etc on their report than they actually did.. i know that i did.
the reason was that i was pioneering and working full time.
it just got too much and i ended up adding hours.
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"How many people in the congregation actually get to see the reports?"
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Has anyone requested their Publisher Records or any other 'records'?
by tabbycat in...and if so, what happened?
i am now living quite far away from my old hall, and no-on here knows i used to be a jw.
i don't know who the secretary would be in my old hall, as it's been a long time.
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"I knew a real coven of elder's wives that knew everyone's business"
Yeah, word getting out that you are "going back" could surely happen.
I remember an elder's wife telling my wife "***** has to tell me things
that affect ME, and if it's going on in our congregation it affects ME!"
No confidentiality there.