There are maybe 8 names in the running now that are getting better than single digit percentages. I'm not surprised that Clinton and Obama are the two names people outside the U.S. are mostly hearing about. I think that if either one of them wins their primary, it will swing a few votes toward the Republicans as people may vote against either of them. I thought Bill Clinton was reasonably good as a president, but I have no interest in Hillary winning. I don't believe the administrations will be similar. Obama is a good speaker, but I believe inexperienced for the job. I'd take Lieberman (though he's not running) or Ron Paul (won't win the primary) over any of them. I'm guessing that those outside the U.S. are just more intrigued that a woman and a black man are in the running. We have never had either as president and the world wants to see what happens. It may be interesting, but it would be nice to have a president that is effective and reasonable, not one based only on their skin color or sex.
Posts by thom
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3Politics & America
by LouBelle ini must say for the first time i'm actually interested in the politics of america.
i don't know the details of it and the different camps but i must say with oprah backing that one dude (don't know his name) and with hilary clinton running - it is very interesting.
i reckon either one of these 2 could do a very good job.. how do you guys feel and who are you supporting and why.
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Open Relationships, and Society's Cultural Unwritten Boundaries
by frankiespeakin ini'm a anarchist basically with a ever widening opening mind.
and i believe in them i don't beleive that either sex should dominate over the other .
on the grounds that every one is master over thier own body, and so to demand loyalty in the use of anothers body seems wrong.
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thom
I have no problem with open relationships, but for myself, I don't want to be in one. I demand NOTHING from my wife. She demands NOTHING from me. We can do as we please, but we both choose to have a closed sexual relationship. That is what we both want, so it serves us well. I don't believe that getting married makes a person any less of the individual that they are. Their husband or wife has no control over them, but I do believe that they may choose to do or not do things because they want to please or not displease their mate. I try to do that, so does my wife. When my previous wife decided she wanted another man, that was fine. It's her choice, not mine to make. We peacefully parted ways.
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I'm a Pioneer Married To a Wonderful Brother Reaching Out to be an MS...
by cognac inand petrified... i just recently became a pioneer and always had nagging questions in the back of my mind.
so, i decided that when i have get a study i would research all the questions as i go along so as to prove everything in the truth... i got 4 studies in about 2 months.
all was fine, until i reached i think chapter 6 in the bible teach book about the resurrection.
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thom
Welcome :) I was a Witness for almost 40 years before I decided to leave. Leaving didn't mean I had to hate Witnesses, just that it wasn't for me. What I have learned is that since I made that decision, I feel so much more control over my own life. The stress of blocking out doubt (which I didn't even realize I was doing) is gone. The stress of being judged all the time is gone. At first I thought I must find a replacement religion, but later decided that's not necessary. If I do, that's fine, but it's not a requirement for leaving. I believe that if there really is a loving God, he wouldn't require the odd, confusing and stressful worship that Witnesses are expected to deliver. Life is good.
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The Term- Disfellowshipped -no longer used???
by annalice ini just got an email from a still active witness friend of mine and in it she says that they no longer use the word disfellowshipped.
they announce that so and so is "no longer " one of jehovah''s witnesses.
is this true?
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thom
Yes, I found this about Bulgaria: http://www.ajwrb.org/basics/abandon.shtml
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The Term- Disfellowshipped -no longer used???
by annalice ini just got an email from a still active witness friend of mine and in it she says that they no longer use the word disfellowshipped.
they announce that so and so is "no longer " one of jehovah''s witnesses.
is this true?
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thom
If I remember correctly, the country where they said they do NOT disfellowship for taking blood is Bulgaria. Maybe around 1999 or 2000? I'm not sure.
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Who had the HOTS for YOU?
by nomoreguilt ina number of years ago, there was a large group of us that went to an unasigned territory.
many of us stayed at a small motel, motel 8, 6, 666 something like that, others camped out.
so, most of those that stayed at the motel were in the in group.
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thom
This creepy pioneer sister. She was maybe 5 years older than me but had never been married (I was in my late 30's at the time). I was married and she used to tell my then wife how lucky she is and how good looking I am. That really creeped me out, not because some woman was saying that, but because she was so creepy. She was about as homely as a woman could look, and she never swallowed her spit, instead she'd drool it and spit it while talking. I'm getting sick just thinking about her now (ewwww).
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Is it compulsory to stay the 15 minutes for association after the WT study?
by truthseeker inwell, today was the first sunday meeting with the half hour public talk.. the public talk was not for the public at all - it was about staying awake spiritually and was very hardcore.
more like a service talk.. before the meeting, one sister says that we are all expected to stay for at least 15 minutes after the wt study, because the society.
wants us to have more "association".. .
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thom
I never thought of it as compulsory. Some left right after meetings, some stayed around for a while. As a "servant", I was expected to stay (usually had some work to do anyway), but for most there is no such rule. Of course those that leave right away after every meeting won't be viewed as very "spiritual" by the rest. (no big loss)
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I have a theory. Please take my poll!
by changeling ini'd like you all to tell me 2 or 3 things:.
1- were you raised a witness or not?.
2-if you were, was your family very "theocratic" or not so much?.
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thom
1- Were you raised a witness or not? Yes, 3rd gen. left at 39 2-If you were, was your family very "theocratic" or not so much? theocratic, but balanced 3- Where do you stand on religion now? Christian, pagan, atheist/agnostic, undecided... Closest would be Pagan
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why is it better to "fade"?
by ruined ini've been reading various posts and i notice that fading is often advised by others who have done so or wish they had done so.
why is this better than being df'd?
i'm assuming it's because your family will not shun you if you are merely da'd ?
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thom
I think that what's "better" has to do with the person involved. For some, getting df'd or da'd is the best choice for them. For others, it is to fade. I don't know that fading means you are faking that you are still a jw. I'm not df'd or da'd, so does that make me a fader? I guess so, but I certainly don't pretend to be a jw, I just have avoided being df'd, and chose not to send a da letter. The christmas lights all over the front of my house certainly aren't the best way to pretend to still be a jw. If I get df'd, that's fine by me, but I don't plan to make it happen intentionally.
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Can I be DF'd
by Robert7 inso the reality is, .
- i am in 'good standing'.
- i am questioning/doubting the validity of the bible.
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thom
As some have mentioned above, it depends a lot on the elders you would be dealing with. Do they like you? Do they know and like your JW family (if you have JW family). I have been fortunate (from my point of view) that the elders that know me don't really want to DF me, so they haven't. The Christmas lights all over the front of the house haven't caused any visits yet. Also, someone mentioned taking a look at the Flock book. I did that before I met with them about a year or so ago. It helped for me to know what they might ask and why. I was prepared to answer and it went well (again, from my point of view).