so if someone puts their life into serving the cult for free at bethel, then say after 25 or 30 years they are not able to for one reason or another such as illness, or family issue or old age, does the cult have any safety net for these people or is it you serve until you can't and when you can't you just go away?
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LHG -- hahahahahaha -- now I know you wouldn't let anyone starve!
Yeah -- they've no clergy class alright. It's one heck of a pecking order inside those bunkers. I told one elder's kids (loved them -- good kids in college and treated differently because of it) they were part of the clergy class and they were rolling - couldn't deny it. There were some criminal kids -- papas were elders but I didn't blame the kiddos but the loser parents and the cult.
so if someone puts their life into serving the cult for free at bethel, then say after 25 or 30 years they are not able to for one reason or another such as illness, or family issue or old age, does the cult have any safety net for these people or is it you serve until you can't and when you can't you just go away?
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I understand your reasoning, The Bethelite. What concerns me about cult service is the brain washing (psychological control) and parents holding their children hostage to the cult re/their approval/conditional love, etc. It's part of the pecking order and do-gooders hierarchy. Most children will do anything for their breeders' admiration/love. I've noticed this with Morman and JW members trying to elevate themselves in their status/rank -- it's an echelon thang. That's my position -- other than that I think X-Bethelites should jump a bus and roll up their sleeves -- do whatever it takes to feed themselves like anyone else -- they aren't entitled. The elderly/ill are obviously facing different circumstances but I'm sure the halls help them out. The halls I was at went the extra mile for the younger x-Bethelites.
there has been a raid on a large jehovahs witness gathering in norilsk, above the arctic circle, according to the moscow times.. a building with 50 jws inside was surrounded by masked, armed special forces forces who burst into the building and demanded they surrender all electronic devices.. i'll link the article but it's obviously going to drive these witnesses deeper into the religion.
not to mention the images conjured up in the report are likely to be used by watchtower as more fear mongering, since its very much like last year's terrifying assembly videos where witnesses were huddled in a field and surrounded with similarly masked, armed men.. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/10/22/russian-special-agents-raid-jehovahs-witnesses-resort-as-crackdown-intensifies-a67855.
We should flood the GB parasites w/messages to get over there (they have good booze in land of see-thrus, i.e., Vodka, so they'd survive) and help these poor JWs. Where's the WT legal team and to what extent is WT responsible. Needs to be TV coverage on this. I'm sure the 8? imbibing losers are quite concerned (what a joke)! They've no regard for law and justice and need to be held accountable.
Putin must have warehouses of JW letters for a paper recycling factory -- I'm sure this is the extent of WT's efforts on behalf of these poor JWs but are concerned and defending their asset/property losses. Apostates' letters would have a better chance with Russian despot revealing truth of the perpetrators they need to go after. Poor innocent cult vics!
today is my first time celebrating halloween.
and it is just plain fun!
each new thing, birthdays, halloween, next thanksgiving and xmas are all proof that we were held back and restricted from enjoying life.. .
So happy you're enjoying the real life -- it's wonderful -- all the cute candy and costumes. One of my best memories was trick or treating (primary school yrs) in the city with childhood friends -- a couple still in my life to this day. We'd receive so much candy and had a blast both on 'gate nite' and Halloween nite. Many businesses/restaurants/malls offer safe events/celebration parties for children.
yesterday, i was driving around on a beautiful fall day in arizona and thinking about how lucky i was.
how my dead friends could never enjoy this day or the thousands of other days they had missed over the years.
i'm still alive yet they are gone..... .
Tragic -- how many deaths! I'd love to see billboards across the globe (the eye buys more than the ear hears but maybe not re/cults). Whatever it takes to get the truth out there.
so if someone puts their life into serving the cult for free at bethel, then say after 25 or 30 years they are not able to for one reason or another such as illness, or family issue or old age, does the cult have any safety net for these people or is it you serve until you can't and when you can't you just go away?
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LHG - hahahahahahah - love your term above "deadbeats" -- perfect. Haven't heard that in long time but it's great. I think some JWs are quite industrious.
You would have fit in better in different city re your career -- blessings you didn't but single women hold full time careers/jobs out here - just in case you ever re-enlist/lololol - NOT! Teachers, realtors, my XJW friend in retail (college degree and has always worked full time representing private skin care co inside exclusive dept store - she's salaried good $$$) etc. Believe me, I was as x-treme on fringe as one could possibly be but it's an isolation cult.
this article is from jw.org newsroom.
audioaudio download options historic hurricane dorian pummels bahamas.
hurricane dorian, one of the most powerful storms ever recorded in the atlantic ocean, made landfall as a category 5 storm on great abaco island in the northern bahamas on sunday morning, september 1, 2019. dorian is especially dangerous due to its slow movement, high wind speeds, and heavy rains.
Did WT pad their pockets over Dorian via donations/contributions?
so if someone puts their life into serving the cult for free at bethel, then say after 25 or 30 years they are not able to for one reason or another such as illness, or family issue or old age, does the cult have any safety net for these people or is it you serve until you can't and when you can't you just go away?
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LHG - "any of us" - I was around a few x-Bethelites (no problem with them) and a hardliner nut job who finally was accepted - cult needed her mate - but I can see how the desire could possibly happen for some buying into the magic. My lifestyle/social commitments always on the run (UBM) was never going to allow me to fit in -- other than for handouts/work, etc. Despots/crooks -- it was a horror story and I wasn't going to conform - ever.
so if someone puts their life into serving the cult for free at bethel, then say after 25 or 30 years they are not able to for one reason or another such as illness, or family issue or old age, does the cult have any safety net for these people or is it you serve until you can't and when you can't you just go away?
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It's sad when they receive the 'you're done' line/notice -- it could have been reality for many of us when we were under the spell of the cult. I can't imagine the Catholic church treating their priests/nuns like this but who knows. I'm sure WT isn't unique and Scientology and other cults are merciless once they can't use/abuse one any longer.
there has been a raid on a large jehovahs witness gathering in norilsk, above the arctic circle, according to the moscow times.. a building with 50 jws inside was surrounded by masked, armed special forces forces who burst into the building and demanded they surrender all electronic devices.. i'll link the article but it's obviously going to drive these witnesses deeper into the religion.
not to mention the images conjured up in the report are likely to be used by watchtower as more fear mongering, since its very much like last year's terrifying assembly videos where witnesses were huddled in a field and surrounded with similarly masked, armed men.. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/10/22/russian-special-agents-raid-jehovahs-witnesses-resort-as-crackdown-intensifies-a67855.
This is not good -- I feel sorry for the Russian JWs and hope the WT didn't encourage them to continue as usual or break any laws - not that it would take much there/scary.
