i’ve noticed a pattern where things don’t go the way i expect them to go and/or whenever i realise there is a trend and, i mentally adjust for the idea that the trend will continue, the trend stops in its tracks.
so on that basis, and given many people, including myself, and active jws, have been asking ‘what changes will the governing body make next?’ perhaps the (disappointing) answer is: ‘nothing much for a while to come’.
maybe they’ve made the changes they want for now, and will wait a while and see how it’s received.
They're obviously not worried enough or testing the waters of the recent relaxed cold-calling dress/grooming code (sales calls/meetings) before they throw out any additional perks. It would take an insurmountable number of adherents walking away for any positive change.
I can't imagine this country caring one iota whether the WT is false doctrine -- courts don't want to mess in that arena thus WT skates.
2024-april-elder-manual.. .
https://files.accessjw.org/s/qpctw2hg87t9hxx .
grandpa!.
Thank you, Atlantis.
Skimmed couple lines and they're pushing door to door stating that's where the action is for Bible studies.
i am thinking that the "ten year plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario.
the org.
has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.. so i think they will let the recent changes "bed in" for a while, maybe a year ?
I can't imagine why anyone would be there in the first place but why leave now with positive, mainstream, changes, on the horizon. Money answereth all things -- MO to retain adherents maybe get lucky pick up some disfellowshipped/disillusioned saps so why leave now -- it's a social club plus they feel protected and serving creator at the same time. They can't rely on the oldies -- they'll soon be on other side of dirt and already have their estate plans in the vault.
so, i thought i'd start a thread about any beautiful photos of places you've been to, or just beautiful photos.. i'll go first .... .
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copyright: daniel burton.. this is bøur, a little village in the faeroe islands, population 74.. i've never been there but i'd love to visit one day.
WOW - Carrizo is beautiful!!
so, i thought i'd start a thread about any beautiful photos of places you've been to, or just beautiful photos.. i'll go first .... .
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copyright: daniel burton.. this is bøur, a little village in the faeroe islands, population 74.. i've never been there but i'd love to visit one day.
SceVie -- I must see this. Love San Luis Obispo and Sequoia close to Fresno. The San Andreas Fault is a serious one -- flying over area checking out is interesting and commercial pilots sometimes point out. Quakes while skiing at beautiful Mammoth near the Fault (or sleeping😳 with bedroom furniture being moved and unreal loud sounds of the quake) is an experience unlike what I recall growing up in Cali.
one theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.
he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .
what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.
I'm so sorry, Always Busy, and agree with you re/the shunning. There's some evil, envious, miserable, people, and the shunning gives them an excuse to act like social misfits. Many have no social skills to begin with and once they're part of the Watchtower it's sealed. Watchtower has done a good job of showing the world what a loser religion it is -- many know about this cult-shunning factor and would never set foot in a bunker/hall.
So sorry Sea B -- JWs (WT) are ruthless and beyond hope. The religion would never be one of respect - I had many elderly women yrs. ago asking me about the ole fraud, charlatan, Russell, and it's horrible reputation.
i’ve not been paying close attention to watchtower developments, but talking to a jw yesterday it occurred to me the society (yes, still use that term - old school) have been sending out mixed messages in recent years.
from what i gather, a few years ago the gb announced that during the great tribulation jws would be required to preach a “hailstone message of judgement” which involved telling people it was too late for them to repent and they were definitely going to be destroyed.
there were hints that this could be very soon, “any day now” preaching could stop and the hailstone message come in, kind of thing.
A thousand 'Likes' Scully.
imagine if all the governing body resigned and a new set of brothers came in and said we are very very sorry for all those who have been disfellowshipped and disassociated over the years.
we know many mistakes have been made.
we are really genuinely sorry to all those who have been hurt and especially those who have died and been hurt by these mistakes.
lolol -- right on, Sister Longy. I'd feel real sorry if someone tried to hit me up for one of those lazy sloths today. In fact as I was exiting, a professional's wife was blathering how a CO's wife needed moolah for something and they were passing tin cup around -- I made it clear I didn't care and she needed to get a job. The sista was shocked and said my name loud ... she's 70 yrs. old! Sounded like a personal problem to me and I didn't care. I'd had it!!
I don't want anyone (young or old) cold, homeless or hungry but they should hit those up w/deep pockets who are their cult friends in the center of the hall or however they 'splained the spiritually strong to me. I was supposed to try to stay close to those -- gag me!
mark jones writes:.
how will history treat joseph rutherford?.
like ben gorden has said, it would depend on who’s looking back.
I know little about the charlatan but recall having read moons ago (H20?) he wasn't an educated lawyer but a court runner or lackey who rode a bicycle delivering court documents. Lawfirms still hire runners who serve papers to other firms and file w/court but mostly done online today. Rutherford had access to the bar exam available via the courthouse and, voila, became a lawyer. It's unbelievable but who knows -- charlatans are quite creative. I always compare the story to the old country doctors who traveled around in wagons selling snake oil.
imagine if all the governing body resigned and a new set of brothers came in and said we are very very sorry for all those who have been disfellowshipped and disassociated over the years.
we know many mistakes have been made.
we are really genuinely sorry to all those who have been hurt and especially those who have died and been hurt by these mistakes.
I agree with Magnum, also. Would take a lobotomy and a valium drip to be part of that so called religion.
The west must be full of lazy, deadbeats, Longy. Halls (enablers) out here beg/collect from studies for handouts to those in the 'in crowd.' I'd never been around so many lazy, entitled, slugs, in my life.
