Well some are like that - many are actually happy although I don't understand how.
One og the things they seem to be agaisnt is any sort of FUN, so no wonder many gripe.
jimakazi
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Dubs are the WALKING DEAD
by GetBusyLiving inlately i've just been getting contacted quite a bit by depressed zombie like cultist's.
i thought i would welcome being contacted by dubs after i da'ed but i actually really find it annoying!
they all drop comments like "nothing ever changes.." "i don't really go to the meeting's that much.." "i'm just so bored.." "if i didn't have meetings i could go back to school" "brother shitbag is a jerk.. i'm so sick of him.." "the elders treat me like a child" blah blah blah.
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Can I get Reproved or Disfellowshipped for not...
by Smoky inpreaching (door to door), commenting, or giving talks?.
i am currently fading away, but i occasionaly go to the meetings, just to show my face from time to time, basically to maintain my relationships with friends and family.
i guess leaving everything, is a jump i am not ready for, just yet.
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jimakazi
You should be OK - although fading completely [change address and just stop going] would seem to be the next step.
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hypocrite
by susu812 ini have this "best friend" who was leading a "double life" like me and just has yet to be caught/confess.
in comparision she was was worse then i ever was.
anyways when i was getting df'd she called me once saying how much she loved me, would always be there for me, never stop talking/hanging out with me, blah blah blah.
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jimakazi
Make a call from a phone booth, dob her in just for fun... [after all it only what they say to do anyway - and she's living a lie so this would realy be doing her a favor].
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Covert Field Service tactic
by doinmypart inhere's an idea i thought of for those of us still associated with the jws and going in field service:.
1. write the url to this site, quotes, silentlambs, etc.
on post-it notes (little yellow sticky papers).. 2. put the post-it notes inside the folded portion of a tract, or first page of wt magazine.. 3. leave the tract or magazine at not-at-homes.. in the chance the householder peruses the litter-ature rather than trash it, they will see the note and possibly visit the referenced website.
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jimakazi
Hell just put on some old JW gear, load up some info printed from here and go knocking on doors... "Hi, I'm one of Jehovahs ex witnesses, and I'm here to share with you some reasons not to get involved, do you mind if I leave you this info sheet which has all the references you will need if they should call. Also if you request that they list you as a "do not call" you will be left in peace".
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Neaderthals and the Hobbits what the heck?
by skyman into me not believing that they were alive and human living at the same time as us is like believing in the tooth fairy.
dna proves the neanderthals lived and were human but not us.
they lived worshipped wore jewry and buried their dead.
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jimakazi
Hobbits are real... There were quiet a few here in NZ a little while ago, obsessed with a ring if I recall.
I don't know where they all got to but at least one has turned up on "Lost"
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told mom to have a nice life!
by crazyblondeb ini did something tonight that was long overdo!
my mom was reinstated a couple years ago.
there are 5 of us kids that are no longer jw's.
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jimakazi
Hey Crazyblondeb
Great to see you have the guts to put her straight. As for the DF'd thing - they are supposed to be able to talk to you as family, but shouldn't be talking about spiritual stuff. I've had to basically make my parents understand this - if you want us to visit you, and see your grandchildren do no preach to us. They forget from time to time and it does get heated.
Anyway all the best on keeping clean.
Yo can do it.
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Active Jehovah's Witnesses - - - PLEASE READ
by nicolaou inan open letter to all jehovah's witnesses.
dear friend, .
what caused you to come and read the posts of so many of your former brothers and sisters who have either been disfellowshipped or have chosen to walk away from the society and the 'truth'?
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jimakazi
Well said.
They need to be encouraged to hang arround - check some stuff out for themselves - come to that realisation that the WTS is not all it claims to be.
Keep up the good work.
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Does Genesis 1:26 support Devine Trinity???
by zagor ini've seen several comments about trinity, so here goes another one: .
please read again genesis 1:26
this is very interesting paragraph and many times is being used as a proof of trinity as it says let us create .
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jimakazi
The really sad thing is that this assumes the bible has to make sense and is "inspired". I think you find inconsistancies because it is NOT inspired, this is in many ways your proof. I think the whole concept of a trinity is pretty damn weak, just as is hell, Even my 7 year old son [attending a catholic school] worked that out for himself.
Even if it was inspried, it was likely written in a way that the people of a sheep herder / desert nomadic culture might understand. Language helps shape our thoughts, and think - I wonder how rich their language was back then??? So even is god explained the quantum physics involved, and the complete process and time scale in detail, how would our humble writer express it? Hey big guy can i just say "in the beginning..."
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Are you an Irritating Bastard?
by gumby inhow many of you ex witnesses out there became irritating bastards to family and friends when you left the organisation?
did you push your believing mate right out the door with your verbal assaults?
did you send out a long letter to all of your witness family and friends telling them what a lying cult the watchtower organisation is?
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jimakazi
Yes but what about people who become JW's and then become irratating bastards by telling every one they know that they are going to die unless they join the borg? Actaully a great technique to issolate them from the "opposed" spouses and friends - leaving just the love bombing JW's to fill the empty spaces.
I think those who escape and try to show the others what is wrong are much less irratating. I guess it's really irratating if in the deep recesses of a largely inactive JW brain there is the recognition that if they listen they too will leave, but they are in a comfrotable zone where all thinking is done for them, and armagedons just arround that never ending corner.
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Tertiary education
by Spanners inhi, my sister is a jw and last year was her final year of secondary school (17/18 years old over here), she received the prize for best student overall in the whole school.
she's always wanted to go to university and become a lawyer and now since becoming a jw has changed her mind and is working in a restaurant clearing tables.
which is a bit of a joke, because she'll end up stuck in that job for the next 30 years.. she doesnt want to go to university because "armageddon is coming soon so theres no point".
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jimakazi
5/8/1989 Pages 13-14
What Career Should I Choose? University Education—Advantageous? Most pioneer ministers support themselves with part-time work. But what if later on you need to support a family? Surely one would never regret devoting one’s youthful years to God’s service! Still, some ask, Would it not make sense for a youth first to obtain a university degree and perhaps pursue the ministry later? The Bible, of course, does not spell out exactly how many years of schooling a Christian youth should obtain. Nor does it condemn education. Jehovah, the “Grand Instructor,” encourages his people to read well and to express themselves clearly. (Isaiah 30:20; Psalm 1:2; Hebrews 5:12) Moreover, education can broaden our understanding of people and the world we live in. Nevertheless, is a university degree always worth the huge commitment of time and money it demands? While statistics indicate that university graduates earn higher salaries and suffer less unemployment than high school graduates, the book Planning Your College Education reminds us that these statistics are mere averages. Only a minority of university graduates actually receive sky-high salaries; the rest are paid wages that are far more down to earth. Besides, the high incomes attributed to university graduates may also result from such factors as “unusual abilities, motivation, area opportunities for employment, . . . special talents”—not simply the amount of their education. “A [university] degree no longer guarantees success in the job market,” says the U.S. Department of Labor. “The proportion [of university graduates] employed in professional, technical, and managerial occupations . . . declined because these occupations did not expand rapidly enough to absorb the growing supply of graduates. As a result, roughly 1 out of 5 [university] graduates who entered the labor market between 1970 and 1984 took a job not usually requiring a degree. This oversupply of graduates is likely to continue through the mid-1990’s.” Further Facts to Ponder A university degree may or may not improve your employment prospects. But one fact is indisputable: “The time left is reduced”! (1 Corinthians 7:29) For all its presumed benefits, would four years or more in a university be the best use of that remaining time?—Ephesians 5:16. Would a university education steer you toward or away from your spiritual goals? Remember, a high income is not a Christian priority. (1 Timothy 6:7, 8) Yet, a survey of U.S. university administrators described today’s students as ‘career-oriented, concerned with material success, concerned with self.’ One group of students said: “It seems like all we talk about is money.” How might being immersed in an atmosphere of intense competition and selfish materialism affect you? Universities may no longer have the riotous scenes of the 1960’s. But a decrease in university bedlam hardly means the campus environment is wholesome. Concluded one study of campus life: “Students still have almost unlimited freedom in personal and social matters.” Drugs and alcohol are used freely, and promiscuity is the rule—not the exception. If this is true of universities in your land, might living there thwart your efforts to remain morally clean?—1 Corinthians 6:18. Another concern is the well-documented association of exposure to higher education with decreased “adherence to core religious tenets.” (The Sacred in a Secular Age) The pressure to maintain high grades has caused some Christian youths to neglect spiritual activities and thus become vulnerable to the onslaught of secular thinking promoted by universities. Some have suffered shipwreck concerning their faith.—Colossians 2:8. Alternatives to University Education In view of these facts, many Christian youths have decided against a university education. Many have found that the training offered in congregations of Jehovah’s Witnesses—the weekly Theocratic Ministry School in particular—has given them a real edge in finding employment. Though not possessing a university degree, such youths learn to be poised, adept at expressing themselves, and quite capable of handling responsibility. Furthermore, while in secondary school, some take courses in typing, computer programming, auto repair, machine-shop work, and so forth. Such skills may lend themselves to part-time employment and are often in high demand. And though many youths disdain ‘working with their hands,’ the Bible dignifies doing “hard work.” (Ephesians 4:28) Why, Jesus Christ himself learned a trade so well that he came to be called “the carpenter”!—Mark 6:3. True, in some lands university graduates have so flooded the job market that it is hard to obtain even commonplace jobs without additional training. But often there are apprenticeship programs, vocational or technical schools, and short-term university courses that teach marketable skills with a minimum investment of time and money. Also, there is a factor that employment statistics do not take into account: God’s promise to provide for those who give priority to spiritual interests.—Matthew 6:33. Employment prospects and educational systems vary from place to place. Youths have different abilities and inclinations. And while a career in the Christian ministry is recommended as being beneficial, it is still a matter of personal choice. You and your parents must thus carefully weigh all factors involved in deciding how much education is right for you. ‘Each one must carry his own load’ in making such decisions.—Galatians 6:5. If, for example, your parents insist that you attend a university, you have no choice but to obey them as long as you are living under their supervision. (Ephesians 6:1-3) Perhaps you can continue living at home and avoid getting caught up in the university scene. Be selective in your choice of courses, for example, focusing on learning job skills rather than worldly philosophies. Guard your associations. (1 Corinthians 15:33) Keep yourself spiritually strong by meeting attendance, field service, and personal study. Some youths who have been obliged to attend university have even managed to pioneer by choosing a schedule of courses that made that possible. Choose your career carefully and prayerfully, so that it not only will bring personal happiness but will enable you to ‘store up treasures in heaven.’—Matthew 6:20.
2/1/1967 Pages 75-6
Fruitful Christians Manifest Godly Contentment 10 Some persons who have been bearing godly fruit, however, turn aside from that right course, and this is often because they are no longer “content with the present things.” Young people, for example, are easily influenced by the materialistic outlook of the world around them, and especially is this true if their parents are inclined to value highly the ability to command a big salary in the business world. As a result, they may set their hearts on the education that is offered by the world’s institutions of “higher learning.” Their desire is not simply to learn a trade so that they can work with their hands and not be a burden on others; no, they want to be in an upper-income bracket. (1 Thess. 4:10-12) But what is wrong with that? Jesus frankly said that it would be more difficult for a rich man to get into the Kingdom than for a camel to get through the eye of a sewing needle. (Luke 18:24, 25) Rather than being content with “sustenance and covering,” those who devote themselves to getting a “higher education” usually want to be able to enjoy “the rest of the things” that money can buy. (Mark 4:19) If they are going to succeed in the education they have set out to get, they have to work hard at it. Study of the Bible, association with the Christian congregation and participation in the Christian ministry are curtailed. Worldly associations predominate; worldly philosophy fills their minds. What happens? Perhaps not what they expected, though they would have known if they took seriously what the Bible says. (1 Cor. 15:33; Col. 2:8) It may even come as a shock to their parents. Why, just recently a man who wanted his boy to have a “good education” so that life would be easier for him found that, in just one year at college, the boy had lost his faith—something that no amount of money can buy.Thanks to Shaun's research.