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July 19th Watchtower Summary. Insanity

by Lemonp in

just got back from the wt study and it overall was just so blindingly biased and leading.. i had to read it from the platform too, i hope they couldn't see the confounded look on my face as i read this craziness out!.

first we consider the faith of abel, enoch, noah, abraham, isaac and jacob, and moses.. all of these people are held up as sterling examples of blind faith, with the article pointedly saying that their imaginations sustained their faith in gods promises for them.

no mention anywhere at all that all of these characters saw and talked to angels, spoke to god himself, saw and performed miracles, or any of the other feats experienced by these characters.

skin

Who else spotted what the bible says about the location of this better place (the city having real foundations) that these faithful Men and Women of old were reaching out for?

Hew 11: 16 -
"But now they are reaching out for a better place, that is, one belonging to heaven. Therefore, God is not ashamed of them, to be called on as their God."

Check out how other translations word this verse and the 3 preceding verses. NO - wait, Stop, Please do not read other Bible translations, you will get the wrong meaning. We must believe the WT, These faithful Men and Women recorded in Heb 11 do not go the heaven, but will be part of the earthly resurrection.

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My introduction and confession

by elderINewton in

jw
friends

well another big bad elder here just wanting to say sorry.. i'm sorry that so many were treated like crap, and shown that god's love is not to be found around jehovah's witnesses.

i'm sorry that inadvertently i've likely taught many to judge and as such see that racism permeates every corner of the jw world, else why else would someone be of the world, or even inactive.

i'm sorry i sat in on a jc, and voted to df.

skin

Greetings from New Zealand, I just might see you at the meeting tonight if you are from NZ.

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Hello Everyone

by MarieK in

i hope everyone is having a good saturday.

i've visited this many times in the past month or so, joined yesterday and finally got the nerve to post!

needless to say, i'm super nervous, being new to this whole experience.

skin

A big hello to you from New Zealand.

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If you were put in charge of the Governing Body tomorrow...

by FusionTheism in

if you were somehow magically put in-charge of the governing body tomorrow, by jesus, with the rules being, you could not teach anything that would be considered outright apostasy and you could not teach anything that would be considered to cause doubt about god's existence... (so as not to arouse suspicion).

what "new light" or "clarified understandings" would you introduce first?.

and which later on?.

skin

Every time you make a donation you will be required to fill in the donation slip. On this slip will be your name, date and amount donated. This information will be used to judge your spirituality. Only those donating more than the congregational average will be given privileges.

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Wedding with a sad side

by StarTrekAngel in

so the family attended a wedding this weekend that we had coming up for a while.

the man getting married (a close relative of my wife) is the son of an (now) elder.

he was baptized young.

skin

A good friend of mine (JW at the time) was getting married to a guy that was not baptized, I was invited along with a large number of her JW friends to the wedding. All was going great until about a week before the wedding, and after a COs talk about not encouraging those that are not living up to Gods laws. Marrying an unbaptized person is wrong and attending that wedding would be viewed as encouraging her and that marriage. In the end I don't think any of her JW friends went to her wedding because of this talk and the gossip that it created about her wedding. I was still going to go to it until pressure from other JW's (and wife) talked me out of it. This is what finally made me not attend and it wasn't the CO's talk, It was because I was told that there will be Elders spying on the wedding to see who out of the witness's would attend. These ones would then be spoken to about it. I don't believe the Elders would spy or did spy on this wedding, but it scared me out of going. If only she got married a week before that CO's talk. then everyone would have been happy to be at that wedding.

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2015 convention releases

by paradisebeauty in

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/jw-convention-releases-2015/.

stephen lett speaks again in the beginning of the movie ... please smb make him shut up and go hide himself.

can they not see how ridiculous he is?.

skin

And if you press "NO", when do you get a 2nd chance to press "YES"?

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2015 Convention Releases

by wifibandit in

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/jw-convention-releases-2015/.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc7cyswlvwg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfmuamqiv4k.

skin

Let's distance the 1914 date from the establishment of the kingdom. That way they can start saying that they never did say it. We are going to see more and more of this date not having any jw connection. Then the new light will be announced at some future agm. Or maybe they will just quietly say nothing.

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Jehovah’s Witnesses Recognize That People Have the Right to Change Religions, Just Not Their Religion

by Watchtower-Free in

by alexandra james.

http://jwvictims.org/2015/05/17/jehovahs-witnesses-recognize-that-people-have-the-right-to-change-religions-just-not-their-religion/.

jehovahs witnesses say that people have the right to change religions and that they deserve respect when it comes to that right, but this is not something that they offer to those who leave their religion.

skin

At 5min in this speaker says that one of the reasons a DFed person wants to return, is so they can have association with the Brothers and Sisters again. What? "association with the Brothers and Sisters again". That is completely the wrong reason for returning. The real reason a DFed person should want to return is if they want to rekindle their relationship with Jehovah. NOT because of family and friends, this attitude should be considered a self centered one from the DFed person and not the type of person that Jehovah would want associating with his people.

This type of reasoning is plan wrong, but then again, every witness lapping this up would be thinking that this is a marvelous provision from Jehovah, and there is nothing wrong with it.

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BIBLE QUESTIONS ANSWERED - Luke 14:28

by Esse quam videri in

answer: by governing body of jws no!

answer: governing body of jws

skin

Did the Governing Body not tell you that that bible verse doesn't apply to them?

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Average Age of this Forum?

by Garrett in

jw
friends

heyo!.

i'm quite interested in knowing the average age of those of us who use this forum.

i made a quick strawpoll that you can find at the following link: http://strawpoll.me/4340636 just pick an age and click "vote" if you wish to participate.. admins: if this breaks any rules, i apologize in advance..

skin

46 - been here 10 years. still in.