absolutely...I'd be there to help in any way I can.
I think I'd have been the same as a JW--only it might have somehow got me into trouble.
Rose
in the light of the second greatest commandment, "love your neighbor as yourself", when you were an active jw would you have stopped to help in the following scenario?
you are in your car and drive by a woman who is having car trouble... a flat tire.
she's struggling to get the tire changed.
absolutely...I'd be there to help in any way I can.
I think I'd have been the same as a JW--only it might have somehow got me into trouble.
Rose
i see this site gets thousands of postings every day .. from literally thousands of members, mostly ex-dubs, from all over the world.. rather than simply go on moaning and whinging about the big nasty org why don't you all put your efforts into something positive ... do something.. ok - the org is evil .. but it exists ... and simply whining on about it doesn't change that.
with your efforts directed at something positive, you could do wonders for .
.for anything you choose.. hundreds of real charities could do with your support - to help the really needy .
Here's someone trying to DO something...
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/111763/1.ashx
put your money where your mouth is, buddy!
the name of the trust fund is save the children.
the cheques should be made out to: save the children and mailed to:.
save the children.
bttt
the name of the trust fund is save the children.
the cheques should be made out to: save the children and mailed to:.
save the children.
I'm sending you a cheque, Lawrence. It's not as much as I would like to give, but as a single mom of 6...it's all I can do.
I know your story well, I live in BC, and work in a doctors office, and we talked about your daughter frequently during her ordeal. One of the doctors I work for, who works in the Cancer field, just seemed to know she was handing herself a death-sentence by refusing treatment. We were apalled when the judge gave her mature status.
I even wrote the local newspaper telling them how I would have done the very same thing at her age if faced with the same situation, and that I, at that time in my life, I just wouldn't be able to comprehend the fact that my beliefs just might be wrong, and that it could prove deadly.
And, we didn't even know about the arsenic.
Rose
so last night at the memorial, i.... um.... well, i didn't go!
i spent the evening downloading demonic music off the evil internet.
got some new tunes by thunder, xyz, steelheart, skid row, sex pistols, nightwish, jack off jill, firehouse, faster pussycat, and charade.
This was the first ever memorial I missed in my entire 40 years of life.
I celebrated it at my new church of happy drunk people eating cheap chicken wings. A church called Whiskey Jacks Pub.
After a few Ceasars, I couldn't help myself from talking about it, but no one seemed to understand just how much of a big deal this was to me.
And to think I'd even forgot it was even memorial day yesterday until I had a call at work from a JW patient asking for an appointment to get her son into see the doctor for an asthma attack, then say she can't make the 3:10 appointment I had offered to her because she wanted her son to have a nap at that time so he was awake for the memorial...geeze!
Rose
Last year was my last "bread and wine" thing since the year I was born. It will be my last.
The "celebration" was nothing more than the same old same old, and the people there looked alot like unhappy drones to me. Being df'd, some people tried to speak to me by talking to my kids...you know, like, "tell your mother this, that, or the other thing," or " tell your mother she should blah, blah, blah," all while I'm withing hearing range.
When I walked out that door, I knew it was not the "truth," and that I'd never go again.
Rose
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cause there's certainly depression in the wt world.
dan
I'd certainly be depressed when I saw all the crap that needed clearing up after 'armageddon'
I agree...along with all dead bodies of wicked people, children, and babies to clean up.
Maybe God'll provide a new form of manna...Prozac from heaven.
Rose
i was listening to a testimonial by valerie acuff and she said that she was sitting in an assembly, looking around at the crowd and thinking to herself, "this is your family, these are your people.".
she said at that moment she heard a voice inside say, "these are not your people, this is not your family, get up and leave now, and don't ever go back.
" so she took her two children at that very moment and left, and she never went back.
they'd finally made me feel so awful and unworthy that I was nearly suicidal
This was me, too. I just couldn't, I had 6 kids to raise - but the thought did cross my mind more than once.
No matter how hard I tried to understand, things just weren't adding up - among other things, the 1914 generation change, the literature by donation arrangement, the fact that brothers could sexually abuse me as a kid and get away with it, yet if I did as a consenting adult, my sins would be dragged in front of 3 men where I'd have to describe in every detail what happened. Let the guilt get to you, and confess twice - and you're the one thrown of the Org. If you're a good at lying, well you could get away with it for a long time - as was the case with the elder that abused me. The fact that the elders get this blanked-out look on their faces when you go to them for help with the sexual abuse you went through as a child by those in the Org. and then they make you feel like it's all in your head - like you dreamt the whole thing up - crazy making!
I went to college in 2000, and one of my assignments was on Scientology. As I researched for that assignment, many things about that cult and JW's came up so very similar. As I researched for that assignment on the internet, information about JW's was commonly with that of Scientology. I had a bit of an eye-opening then. I found a site that listed 10 traits to identify a cult, and in my opinion, JW's seemed to fit 9 out of the 10.
But the "thunderbolt" moment, that one when you know you're really FREE, came at last year's memorial. I hadn't been to any other meeting, assembly, etc, since the memorial the year before. I went with my 6 kids. I wasn't sure of the time it started, and came too early for a df'd person. So I sat there, and watched. Some people came to where we were sitting, and basically talked to me through my children...you know, like, "You should let your mother know that she is...blah,blah,blah...or that she should, blah,blah,blah." I just about walked out before the whole thing started. But I stuck it out. I listened to the talk like I'd heard it 40 times before - maybe that's because I had. It just no longer felt like the truth. The people looked unhappy, drone-like, worn-out beings. It was cold. I knew as I walked out that door, it would be the last time I'd ever set foot in a KH. It would be the last time I would subject my children to the brainwashing.
Rose
my personal experience is being married to a man who grew up in a very bad situation at home with jw being very strict.
this has damaged his mind to a point where he believes what ever they tell him, he is the kind of guy who will not got to a meeting for a year and his first day back his hand is up in a watchtower study.. he then wants to try that s^%$ on my children and then we are in a fight, i am afraid i am just married too it being that i lost my dad early in life not to death but he just left and i grew up with out him in my life i feel bad spliting up.
my youngest son tells me all the time how much he hates his father, i hate to say deep inside if i were him i would also hate my husband.
ezra's choice in his/her use of words, pre-programmed "advice," no spelling ability, lack of proper puctuation, inability to put a clear sentence together, and general writing style, reminds me so much of my abusive JW ex-husband.
(Who, btw was convicted and served time for threatening and harrassing my family.)
are you supposed to enjoy field service?
find joy in god's work?
i hated service, hated getting up early, hated wearing dresses/skirts,hated bugging people early on the weekend, hated "preparing" for service (all i did was read the little blurb on the inside of the awake lol) hated being grouped with elder ihatecoffeebreaks and sister letsdoonemoredooreventhoughits12.......one day brother ihatecoffeebreaks asked me why my time was dropping in service and i said "because i hate service" ( i mean i was taught to be honest right?
Absolutely HATED it!
Dragged myself (or got dragged) out of bed.
Went to group with parents bitching at each other all the way there, then watching them put on their "happy" faces for everyone else.
Got shoved into a stinky car (either a sister with too much perfume on - or one of those car air fresheners I couldn't stand the smell of).
Got paired up with a partner that would make ME do all the doors.
Thought about how much I didn't want to bring anyone into this miserable life I was existing in, while out in service doing just that!
Went to McDonalds for coffeebreak, where my parents couldn't afford to buy me anything other than a tea. Drooled over the other kids who got french fries, a coke, or a burger.
Went on Return Visits for another hour.
Came home thoroughly car sick...yes, literally SICK!
Rose