I've managed to get 5 of my 6 kids out unscathed. My youngest is still being indoctrinated by his father, and I have a tough time trying to anti-witness to him. I only hope that he sees the real truth about `the truth` in the end.
misguided
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Have your views on gays changed over the years?
by laverite insome questions....feel free to answer any or all of these.
have your views of gay people changed over the years?
do you have or have you ever had gay friends?
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Back in the early 70s, in the small circle of jw friends my brother and I regularly got together with in the congregation, 8 of us - 5 girls and 3 boys, there was one boy who always wanted to play with the girls. He wanted to dress up in dresses. He wanted to play dolls. He wasn't into doing the "boy" things. He always joined in what the girls were playing. This was when he was about 5 years old.
Later, in the late 80s, he left the jws and came out "gay." Many people were shocked. I wasn't. I knew it wasn't a choice he'd made, like so many said. I knew that was who he was.
That's when my view on gays changed.
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Has anyone had a WT literature burning party?
by lepermessiah ini keep staring at the bookshelf full of wt literature in my house and keep having visions of a red-orange glow as the flames crawl higher and higher.
my goal is to gather it all together, douse it with lighter fluid, and watch it go!.
ultimately, i dream of my wife being the one who strikes the match and joins me in the celebration.. has anyone had that experience?
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Oh ya. I've been burning WT liturature at every winter party for the last 5 years. I still have 4 bound volumes to go.
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The assembly mating game
by mutinyinheaven ini haven't been on the board for a while, but i thought you'd dig this.. it was taped last week at a reading from my novel.
the first part is about the hot girls at assemblies and how we'd sit through doom and gloom talks.
part 2 is a scene where gabe is found out for having a girlfriend.. http://vimeo.com/12066637.
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Amazon.ca just delivered your book about a week ago. I`m only a few chapters in. I enjoyed watching you read the story, because in the parts that you read to the audience, I didn`t read in the correct context. Now I get it. I mean I got what you were saying - as growing up JW`s know- I just didn`t quite get the humour in it until you posted this.
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How did you find the strength to leave?
by SAHARA into all of you exjws, i'm sure you've been asked this question one way or the other many times and i'm sure the answer is different for many of you, i'd like to know directly from you never having a chance to hear or read many exjw's answers to this.
knowing that you would be cut off from your family and friends and other consequences for your decision to leave, how did you ever get the strength to do it?
i mean really, i find it fascinating to know that there are so many of you who were at one time very devout, if not at the very least loyal to one of the most successful mind-contol organizations ever who believed all if not most of what the society taught and still you found the courage to risk everything once you accepted that it isn't what it claims to be.
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There was not one things...but many, because I believed with my whole heart that Jehovah would make things right in his own time. I couldn't understand why his own time was allowing others to be hurt.
Firstly, I was sexually abused by 2 brothers in my early teens, including one who was an elder. This was in the same time frame as the other. When I got the courage up to tell my father, he put a knife up to my throat (before a meeting) and told me to never talk like that about a brother/elder again. I was disbelieved. 10 years later this same elder sexually abused my sister who is 10 years younger than me.
Then...I married an elder's son. .
turned out this elder had had a baby with his daughther. Cover up in the ORG....Yup, real bad. So my kids have an aunt who is also their cousin...all covered up.Then...This elder's MS son, my husband's brother (he's a MS, my H was not) tries to have sex with me while my husband is passed out drunk in the other room. I was appalled and never let it happen. I went to the elders. Anything done? NO...He's walking around the assemblies with his "attendent" badge on, while I look like a liar (jehovah, why are you doing this to me?)
Then...The elder's son leaves me 7 months pregnant and moves in with a girl from his work. I'm left to raise 5 kids on my own. A sister says to me, Who's going to want you with 5 kids? So when an unbaptized man wanted to marry me I took the offer. He started abusing us so bad...long story short...he's served a 3 month sentence and 1 year of probation for what he did to us. What did he do during this time? He got BAPTIZED!! Jehovah's holy spirit at work!
After being DF'd for a year or so - yet still thinking I must go back at some point - a jw lady at work told me I had a bad heart. She told me I had a bad heart because she had given me crap for putting a palliative cancer patient in to see the doctor before her for a sore knee. I pointed to the JW-NO BLOOD on her chart after she had made a big scene in the waiting room, and told her this is one of the reasons I had abandoned her religion. There was no love. That's when she told me I had a bad heart. I realized at that moment she was crazy...and that I may be crazy for still believing.
A few weeks later it was the memorial. I took all 6 of my kids and we went. I listened to the speaker. I felt nauseaus. When I walked out those doors, I knew it would be my last. It was. It all fell together. I wasn't the crazy one...everyone else was.
Left the Org...everything is good now. That was in 2002. Have 5 of my kids. May still lose my 6th to the Org (12 years old)
All the time, I couldn't keep up with the changes in things...generation, donation arrangement, etc. The truth was supposed to be free...
So happy to be reallty free!
Rose
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How Do You Feel Being Thought Of As An "Apostate"?
by minimus indoes it bother you if witnesses regard you as an apostate?.
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I love it. At first, as I discovered I was technically, in JW land an "apostate" I felt evil and somewhat terrified. Now that I realize the true defintion, I know its a good thing.
When JWs have to deal with me at work, I try to be really civil. Sometimes I can see on their faces, or by their little comments, that they just don't understand how an "apostate" can be so happy and grounded.
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What "Bad" Food Do You Enjoy That You Know Is Bad For You?
by minimus ini love chicken pie.
the calories are terrible for a pie crusted chicken pie dinner but i love it.. and i love milk chocolate covered candy such as raisinettes or raspberry chocolate candies..
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Driving to the US, and having KFC with a biscuit! It just tastes better than Canadian KFC, and I don't know why. We don't have the buscuits either...we used to...not now. Now we get bread buns.
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Can a Jehovah's Witness nurse/doctor administer a blood transfusion?
by ThomasCovenant inhave the watchtower society said/printed that witnesses who are medical staff are not allowed to participate in the blood transfusion process?
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surely they would not showing proper respect for blood and would that be a disfellowshipping offence?.
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My mom is/was a RN. I remember her delivering babies in the early 70s "underground" with a JW physician when there was the issue of RH incompatibility before the Rhogam injection (which I believe is a blood product) came to be, or became JW approved.
If i remember correctly this was to avoid a blood transfusion for the baby when the mom was having a subsequent pregnancy from her 1st. It angers me deeply to recall this. I remember that a baby, a boy, died. I also remember a incubator with lights hidden in our home - from what I remember this was to provide light to babies with jaundice, which, if I remember correctly, was a side effect of Rh incompatibility.
As a nurse, my jw mother would not give blood to anyone.
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What year Did you Stop Attending Meetings - How Long were you a JW ?
by flipper ini'm trying to compare some statistics and figures on this to share later in the thread to see if more long-time witnesses are exiting- or are newer witnesses exiting after a shorter period of time.
and - are more people exiting in the last 10 to 15 years than before.
so your answers would be helpful in looking into this .
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Stopped meetings in 2001...36 years in the nightmare.
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How many DF'ed on this board have actually had...
by tenyearsafter inhow many disfellowshipped ones on this board have actually had follow up elder visits "encouraging" them to return to the meetings?.
i have been df'ed for 15 years now, and i have never had one visit (i am not saying that is a bad thing!
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Nothing in 6 years...not even a memorial invite this year...no invite even for the other 7 people living in this household.