i have been wanting to get the book crisis of conscience by ray franz for some time but for some reason have felt i might be commiting the unforgivable sin.
so i ordered it on amazon will be here in about 5 days.
Trust me Hambeak, when you read it you will realise you are committing no sin.
This is the most reasoned well written book you will read. Franz does not grind an axe, and he doesnt bash anyone. He makes it very clear that he still believes and that he still loves Jehovah. If anything he gives you a way to continue in a christian faith and have a relationship with god.
Its a very moving book. Enjoy.
after much deliberation, i decided to go "out" at the end of a public talk.
it didn't go down too well, but at least i was able to give some of my reasons for leaving.. i've put some of the details on my homepage.
i'll update it more when i get the time and the strength.
bttt
i cannot believe what i saw happen today at the store.. i was at wal-mart browsing various electronics and digital cameras and such, when i heard behind me, "brother hardy, how are you!"...
first thing i thought was oh shit, they found me, and forgot my real name, or have me mixed up with someone else.. turns out, this disfellowshiped witness was there at the store and saw one of his congregation members there.
now i personally have never been part of the shunning process myself, but here i am, an ex-jw watching from the other aisle, a bunch of shit that i never thought i would see the lights of day on.... the brother, this "hardy" i guess, looked up at the man with a smile, but then when he realized who it was, he immediately frowned and started pushing his shopping cart away looking straight ahead and not even acknowledging the man... (here's where i jump in..).
Anyway, long story somewhat short, the exjw and me sparked up a fatty in the parking lot and got stoned...
And I was believing this piece of creative fiction up until then.
i went without my cell phone for a couple of days because i left it at my brothers house.
he lives in another state and i had to wait for it to be overnighted to me.
i could not believe how crazy i went without it.
i ran into a jw friend doing the tract work this weekend, and she was carrying the tracts in a folder.
both her and her partner looked like they were out doing a survey because of the way they were holding the folder with no bookbag present.
i just talked to an ex-jw friend in another state, and he said he saw someone in his neighborhood doing the same thing, and didn't think they were jw's because of it, but a tract ended up at their door.. just curious, for those of you in the know, was there some instruction to do this work in this way?
I think the tract campaign would be even more successful if the following instructions were given:
Brothers, wear a long rain mac and a trilby hat pulled down over your eyes. That way nobody can identify you. Walk to the door backwards, looking left and right suspiciously as you go. Dont stand directly infront of the door in case the householder spots you through the frosted glass panel. Instead stand with your back to the wall, steal your arm round to the side and slip a tract in the letterbox quicky and quietly.
Sisters, wear a 1900's wild west saloon bar costume. Distribute your 50 tracts between your cleavage and your two garters. Compel each householder to retreive their personal tract with their teeth, but do not engage them in conversation. Tell them it is rude to talk with their mouthes full! Leave the householder with a positive thought like "Well spank me hard and call me Mary".
this morning while i was waiting in line to get a cup of coffee a gentleman in a suit approched the counter and gave the girl behind the counter the new tract and said that he is taking part in a world wide distribution of an important message then handed the tract to the lady and walked away.
the girl looked puzzled and promptly put the tract in the garbage can without even looking at it.
the jw got in his car and took off down the road toward the interstate.. two obervations.
Ha thats so funny.
Very cynical when you know the deal, and you know what they are up to. Just totally bemusing for everyone else.
You should have said "PRAISE THE LORD, ive been praying for guidance, and now you have come". He would have been thinking "get lost nutter, I have a field service arrangement I have to get to in 45 minutes"!
naperville, dekalb, joliet......... il.
i tried to bump an old thread on this topic, but i couldn't find it.. anyone?
beuller?.
Ingratiate
Unsubstantiated
Are we playing WordWang??
jw memorials.
not only is this strange, but it is also a huge ripoff.
who would even conceive of such a bad idea??
How bizarre!
Testimonials:
" When told of the Private Memorials, we all so very happy"
-Carroll, Tampa, Florida
Get a life, Carroll! Was she the same woman that got a letter in the Awake, 'Letters from Readers - when I read your Awake article ' how to bake bread' I cried with gratitude to Jehovah"
(by the way - im not making that letter up - someone really did write in and say the bread article made them cry)
about a year ago a collection of sects that included the jws demanded from the supreme court in paris to outlaw unadfi an organisation for the protection of the family and individual against the activities of such cultic organisations.
what a cheek they had.. the court rejected the demand and imposed on each of these sects to pay 10 000 euro to unadfi for damage caused to its reputation and 5 000 euro each for court costs.
also to publish at their own cost the above decision in 8 newspapers to make it known that unadfi was innocent of the accusations brought against it.
The French are pretty cool IMO.
But if anyone starts legislating against anything that can be construed against religion the JW's will be delirious, and will rush round quoting that scripture about the wild beast turning on religion.
i'm always coming back to this site to read everyone's post and only start a thread when i really feel the need.
only you guys would understand the irony of what happened yesterday.
my partner and i had a commitment ceremony yesterday.
I thought the title was the beginning of a joke. I was waiting for the punchline, and what a GREAT punchline it was - the dubs posted you a false religion tract!
Joking aside, I hope it didnt ruin your special day and that you and your partner have a long and happy marriage.
