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  The ingredient suppliers to the WTBTS's chefs

  by Honesty in

  1. watchtower
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  where do the wtbts chefs procure the ingredients for the food they dispense through the pages of the watchtower society's publications?.

  click here.

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  katiekitten

  Thank you, yes I got my degree in the end, after I had rewritten the whole thing in a proper academic style and not in JW speak!
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  Suddenly and inexplicably enraged

  by katiekitten in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my mum showed me this e-mail her jw friend had sent her last week.. in it the friend explained how wonderful the magazines are and how they provide food at the proper time because they had recently had an article in about ' being prepared for the unexpected'.

  the article had told them to have a bag packed with emergency stuff in case they ever needed to leave the house in a hurry.

  so they were told to pack dried food, a wallet with important documents in, waterproof clothing etc.. now this, it seems, was pretty relevant because i live in gloucester where were had terrible floods a few weeks ago, and some peoples houses were flooded out, the entire city had its water cut off for a fortnight because the pumping station flooded, and most work places were unable to allow staff in because they were not able to provide flushing toilets or running water.. so my mims friend was totally blown away by how jehovah is so clever - although having dried food and your passport in a waterproof wallet did nothing to help you flush the toilet for a fortnight.. but - now heres to point of this long and rambling story - i suddenly got super angry about this article and its survivialist mentalilty.

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  My god, Unique! Thats so cheeky, theyve just straight copied it. Food at the Proper time, My Arse!
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  What Advice Would You Give A JW Thinking Of Leaving Or One Who's Left?

  by minimus in

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  any thoughts?

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  Id say "RUN AWAY!"

  The sooner the better. Pretend you are depressed and fade gracefully.
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  Suddenly and inexplicably enraged

  by katiekitten in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my mum showed me this e-mail her jw friend had sent her last week.. in it the friend explained how wonderful the magazines are and how they provide food at the proper time because they had recently had an article in about ' being prepared for the unexpected'.

  the article had told them to have a bag packed with emergency stuff in case they ever needed to leave the house in a hurry.

  so they were told to pack dried food, a wallet with important documents in, waterproof clothing etc.. now this, it seems, was pretty relevant because i live in gloucester where were had terrible floods a few weeks ago, and some peoples houses were flooded out, the entire city had its water cut off for a fortnight because the pumping station flooded, and most work places were unable to allow staff in because they were not able to provide flushing toilets or running water.. so my mims friend was totally blown away by how jehovah is so clever - although having dried food and your passport in a waterproof wallet did nothing to help you flush the toilet for a fortnight.. but - now heres to point of this long and rambling story - i suddenly got super angry about this article and its survivialist mentalilty.

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  katiekitten

  My mum showed me this e-mail her JW friend had sent her last week.

  In it the friend explained how wonderful the magazines are and how they provide food at the proper time because they had recently had an article in about ' Being Prepared for the Unexpected'. The article had told them to have a bag packed with emergency stuff in case they ever needed to Leave the House in a Hurry. So they were told to pack dried food, a wallet with important documents in, waterproof clothing etc.

  Now this, it seems, was pretty relevant because I live in Gloucester where were had terrible floods a few weeks ago, and some peoples houses were flooded out, the entire city had its water cut off for a fortnight because the pumping station flooded, and most work places were unable to allow staff in because they were not able to provide flushing toilets or running water.

  So my mims friend was totally blown away by how Jehovah is so clever - although having dried food and your passport in a waterproof wallet did nothing to help you flush the toilet for a fortnight.

  But - now heres to point of this long and rambling story - I suddenly got super angry about this article and its survivialist mentalilty. I got so mad that in the end I had to stop talking because I was picking a ridiculous argument with my mum about it, and I just sat in a sulk with tears rolling down my face in that 'im not really crying' style.

  So why was I so angry. I dont know really. What I told my mum kind of makes sense but it doesnt really explain this sudden explosion of emotion. I said I hated being a JW kid in the 70's, because we were brought up on a diet of war stories about persecution and surviving it. We were always stashing food in the attic, making cloth toys stuffed with dried beans so there;d be something to eat when they came to persecute us. The year book was always full of stories about bycicle spokes being pushed through brothers legs and their toe nails being pulled off with plyers, and the implication was that as gods people we would definately be targetted for this kind of thing. The sisters in the cong were always yabbing on about how Jehovah stopped the pain before you passed out.

  As a kid I was told to pray for the brothers in Malawi every night. I know that stuff that happened to them was terrible, but no-one stopped to tell a 7 yr old kid that it was unlikely such governmental brutality would ever happen in a first world country with a developed legal system of human rights. I just thought it was completely inevitable that all that stuff would happen to me, it was just a case of when, not if.

  Imagine bringing a child up with that?

  The funny thing was, as I was ranting on about all this, my 9 yr old daughter was sat listening and my mum said "Shhh, Chloe will hear!" So I went off again BOOM!!!!! "I shouted "WHAT, SO ITS OK TO FILL MY ENTIRE CHILDHOOD WITH ALL THAT, BUT CHLOES NOT ALLOWED TO HEAR ONE CONVERSATION ABOUT IT"

  Honestly!
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  Your favorite bits of JW folklore

  by B_Deserter in

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  we all hear stories an experiences that happened to a "friend of a friend," and the witnesses are no exception.

  they even have their own urban legends.

  here are my favorites, and please post yours as well.. 1. watchtower theologists according to one of the old guys i used to pioneer with, there is a super-scary-secret organization of apostates called "watchtower theology.

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  My version was "Knights in Satan's Service" for KISS.

  How weird, I was thinking about this only the other day. Isnt it true then? (sorry to ask such a dumb question!) My favourite bit of folk lore was the poineer in australia who poked a tract into a crack in a wooden fence post in the middle of nowhere, and some farmer comes along, retreives the tract and becomes a JW. I thought "does this mean I can get all my time in by shoving tracts up dogs bottoms and stuff, instead of having to knock doors?"
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  The ingredient suppliers to the WTBTS's chefs

  by Honesty in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  where do the wtbts chefs procure the ingredients for the food they dispense through the pages of the watchtower society's publications?.

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  Now that is very interesting.

  When I was at University, I was still a JW, and I wrote a dissertation on JW's (very pro JW, im ashamed to say). Anyhow, I wrote the whole thing in the style of the Watchtower, quoting all my references as "a scholar once said" or "a scientist stated".

  My dissertation superviser laughed me out of the room and virtually crossed out the whole thing. She said "you have to STATE who your references are properly, the author, the book, the publisher, the date of publication, the page and the line on the page".

  I was so embarrased and for the first time my eyes were opened to how vague and rubbishy the Watchtower writers were. I had spent 27 years thinking those magazines were the pinace of academic brilliance.
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  I desperately need some advice

  by Redbeard in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hey!

  i'm new to this forum as a user, 'been hanging around for a while and enjoyed reading the posts here, this site has provided a lot of confidence and encouragement to me through harsh times.

  so nice to know that other people out there struggle with the same issues as me.

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  I found the hardest thing was not having all those friends on tap, and it is hard making new friends once you have no 'group' to identify with. Its possible that you will make a new set of friends through your girlfriend though. Ones who wont drop you like a hot potato as soon as you decide you dont believe exactly the same things as they do.

  Regarding family, its amazing how 'blind' they can choose to be as long as you dont rub their noses right into your new fun sins! My friend has a very strict family (brother in law is an elder, sister is a pioneer) and she was convinced that they would cut her off when she got a relationship with a non JW man (even though she had left JWness years ago). But actually while she was just going out with him they just pretended like it was platonic or something.

  Then she decided she wanted to be with him properly but felt that she had to marry him or else the family would cut her off. She agonised over it, because her man didnt want to get married (it would have been his 3rd time). Anyway, eventually she moved him into her house and amazingly the family gave a little frown, stated they couldnt stop overnight at her house (which was impossible anyway as it was as 1bed house) and continued to associate with her!

  As regards losing friends who are JW's, well you might but then again you might not. I was one of the JW friends who never actually broke friendship when all my friends were leaving and doing really great fun things like lying in on Saturday morning, and having sex! Eventually after another 16 years I left too and we have all remained friends. On the other hand if they cut you off, sod 'em, they werent really proper friends. And then again, years down the line they might leave and you might get em back. Its taken 20 years but virtually ALL of my JW friends that I had when I was an early teenager have left, and we are all back in contact as non Witnesses.

  Good luck with whatever you decide, but if you fade gracefully without bad mouthing the religion it may turn out to be a LOT LESS bad than you think. I just pretended I had depression, everyone felt sorry for me, and I got to leave without too much fuss at all.
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  Small Steps - My Progress

  by Princess Daisy Boo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i just wanted to to write quickly and let you all know how proud i am of myself... .

  this weekend, hubby and i took the kids to my mom and dad for a visit.

  i have avoided doing this for a while, just because i get so stressed when we get together.

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  Thats awesome - a really significant step, because if it was me, even if I was not showing anything on the surface my heart would still be beating like jungle drums.

  I think you really stuck up fo your kids too! Just letting them be themselves and not passing on any mum stress about it. Bravo.

  I let my daughter eat chocolate infront of her nana - its about on a par with showing an elder your arse for amusement!
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  Perceptual Contrast and The College Girl.

  by Blueblades in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear mother and dad:.

  since i left for college i have been remiss in writing and i am sorry for my thoughtlessness in not having written before.

  i will bring you up to date now, but before you read on, please sit down....you are not to read any further unless you are sitting down, ok?.

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  Thats very funny!

  My jaw was dropping as I was reading that....I was busy composing some reply that tried not to sound too condescending!!!
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  Can your kids come to my basement to study the bible?

  by Paralipomenon in

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  on the weekend one of our newer neighbours, noticed my wife and our neighbour outside with all the kids.

  he approached them and said that he wanted to start a religious meeting for children in his basement and wanted to invite ours.

  now my wife has been in religious overdose for the past few weeks and has taken up hissing violently at anything loosely affiliated with religion.

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  I cant believe he would seriously expect any mother to say "oh yes, id be perfectly happy for my children to go on their own to the basement of a stange man on a regular basis".

  In fact, maybe she should have said that to him, it might have made him reflect on exactly what he was requesting (though I doubt it). Did he look like Ned Flanders?

  What an A-Hole.