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  Does Genesis 1:26 support Devine Trinity???

  by zagor in

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  i've seen several comments about trinity, so here goes another one: .

  please read again genesis 1:26

  this is very interesting paragraph and many times is being used as a proof of trinity as it says let us create .

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  What, so no one has the balls to comment on this?
  Where are you believers?
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  Would you ever wear a cybernetic implant?

  by zagor in

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  seriously, wtbs borg analogy on a side, would you ever consider having some sort of cybernetic device attached permanently to your body.

  or under what circumstances?

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  What about artificial hands and feet or vision enhancers?
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  Does Genesis 1:26 support Devine Trinity???

  by zagor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've seen several comments about trinity, so here goes another one: .

  please read again genesis 1:26

  this is very interesting paragraph and many times is being used as a proof of trinity as it says let us create .

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  zagor

  I've seen several comments about trinity, so here goes another one:
  

  Please read again Genesis 1:26

  This is very interesting paragraph and many times is being used as a proof of trinity as it says “Let us create ….”

  One interesting thing has been raised before about this paragraph already on this site (I apologies in advance if I stole someone’s idea, I can’t remember in what thread I’ve read about it)

  Anyhow, the paragraphs says “let us create a man in our image according to our likeness”

  Correct? This would logically imply that man was created in god’s image. Interesting thing about this paragraph is that it also indirectly implies that since man was created in god’s image and if god is divine trinity, man would also have to have a form of trinity in himself either psychological, physical or both.

  Any comments?
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  Would you ever wear a cybernetic implant?

  by zagor in

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  2. bible

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  seriously, wtbs borg analogy on a side, would you ever consider having some sort of cybernetic device attached permanently to your body.

  or under what circumstances?

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  Seriously, WTBS – Borg analogy on a side, would you ever consider having some sort of cybernetic device attached permanently to your body. Or under what circumstances? And what would it be?
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  "we are wonderfully made"

  by tetrapod.sapien in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  had a look at my wifes program from the dc on the weekend.

  the only part that interested me was from friday morning called "we are wonderfully made", or something like that.

  if anyone can get me a transcript or an outline, i would really like to dissect it for fun.

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  "To illustrate the vain conceit that the universe must be somehow pre-ordained for us, because we are so well-suited to live in it, he [Adams] mimed a wonderfully funny imitation of a puddle of water, fitting itself snugly into a depression in the ground, the depression uncannily being exactly the same shape as the puddle."
  
  -- Richard Dawkins, in "Lament for Douglas" (14 May 2001)

  I do not consider myself as a believer at least not in a classical sense but I would tend to disagree with this statement. This statement apparently attempts to make suggestion that we are direct byproduct of the universe we are in and its characteristics. Which in principle is fine. However, such statement has perhaps "undesired" effect as it suggests that life is so easily generated anywhere as conditions in this universe make it possible to thrive. Such reasoning is rather preposterous.
  
  Universe is very hostile place and all our speculations about possible alien civilizations are exactly that - speculations. IF we are to assume that in other worlds different biological footprint would be possible, say, not carbon based but, hydrogen, helium or even pure energy does that also mean that evolution could still be used as a vehicle?
  
  Highly unlikely if universe has equal fundamental characteristics which would reinforce one and discard the other base of life’s foundation. So where does that leave analogy about puddle and the depression? It is rather philosophical attempt to cut through complexities of the universe and our own world in it in order to make point that would make believers in design insecure. This analogy is to me as dogmatic and simplistic as anything I’ve ever read in religious literature.
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  "friend" sends me email about Einstein and God...

  by tetrapod.sapien in

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  the young man replied, "in fact sir, cold does not exist.

  "professor, does darkness exist?".

  "sir, does evil exist?".

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  Yeah, sounds kinda like Christian fundamentalist with a brain, not agnostic physics scientist. Especially not Einstein. But I don't know, what is the source of the story? Ask your friend to give you the reference. That what most fundamentalists hate the most. Don’t you get pissed off when you read something in Awake and there's only a name of magazine, no date no page no writer no nothing.
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  Did it ever bother you that Watchtower never did charitible works?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  i mean, for forty years believing the witness lie it always made me wonder.. judas was the keeper of the money box - and there are statements that indicated that the apostles thought that wasting money that could be used to aid the poor was sinful - so indications are that the earliest christians were doing charitible works.

  of course there are many scriptural passages that encourage that activity among believers.

  today all the organization ever does is pay lip service to charity.

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  Constantly, could never understand it really
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  Do you "now" look for more reasons to dislike or hate the JW's?

  by free2beme in

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  i have noticed from reading over this site and from having contact with former witnesses in my personal life, that a lot of time is consumed in the beginning of your exit from the witnesses, with finding further reasons to hate or dislike the jehovah's witnesses.

  with this i was wondering, is this done to give yourself more reason not to return or is it an expression of your freedom to find out what you want without borders.

  from a pure psychological stand-point, i am prone to wonder if it is a means of feeding an inner anger to bring one a faults sense of security, when they are challenged from within to decide if what they are really dealing with is correct thinking or a path that is truly wrong.

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  If this was really the truth wouldn’t you expect people to be capable of explaining some of their core beliefs that would superiorly counter “apostate” questioning. Yet, I was not able to get one satisfactory answer to questions posed at this site as a dub. Which I then posed to pioneers, elders, and others. What I have seen and experienced is that many new “bible students” only superficially if ever research any point presented by WTBS. They simply take WTBS word for it. Take for example 1914. How many JW can explain it adequately and answer all the criticism? NONE.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Take a step back and forget this was Watchtower Society. Now if someone would have actively tried to discourage you from asking questions and searching answers or ridicule you for doing so what would you think??
  THINK.

  What indeed?
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  Are you now BEARDED or BEARDLESS????

  by zagor in

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  2. friends

  just wondering how many are now wearing beard and what's the main reason for it.

  rebellion perhaps?.

  i just love my new goat beard and moustache.

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  its OK for jw's to have a beard....as long as its on top of your lip and not below it

  Yup, sort of like, its ok to have a brain as long as IQ is below the level of WTS.
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  Are you now BEARDED or BEARDLESS????

  by zagor in

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  just wondering how many are now wearing beard and what's the main reason for it.

  rebellion perhaps?.

  i just love my new goat beard and moustache.

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  zagor

  Here is a great avatar if anyone is interested