I'd say much depends on who your target audience is; all the points mentioned are good ones, but you may want to skim a topic or two, or emphasize one the most, depending on who this group of people is comprised of. A group of lawyers and police would be very interested in hearing about what theocratic warfare is, clergy will probably be more interested in failed prophecy than others, etc. Of course, some of the things JWs do or believe are rather alarming, and will be interesting to any group you speak to-like the blood policy. A support group for non-JW spouses would want to hear a little bit of everything, I think.
AllAlongTheWatchtower
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What should people know about JW?
by Mrs Smith ini have been asked to talk to a group of people about jw.
what would you say is the most important thing non-jw need to know about the wbts.
this is what i have in mind, please feel free to comment.. 1) jw history.
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Did you suffer any PHYSICAL impairments DUE to the jdubs?
by sinis inwhen i was in i regular pioneered for years and had to wear those shitty wing tipped dress shoes.
i tried wearing flat front dress/casual shoes but the asshole elders said they were wordly.
well i now have foot problems due to having my feet crammed into a fucking sardin box and literally walking to china.
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AllAlongTheWatchtower
As a kid growing up in the WWCG (Armstrong), much like JWs we thought doctors were evil, not to be trusted, worldly, etc. The nearest congregation for us to attend services was about 1 and 1/2 hours away by car. I frequently got carsick, especially if made to read while in a moving car (articles of the Plain Truth, a common practice to 'not waste any potential time' by parents). Eventually they did take me to a doctor, who suggested I have my tonsils removed. It didn't work. Still get carsick to this day if I try to read in a moving vehicle. While I can't attribute this directly to the WWCG, it was the underlying cause, and medical thinking has changed since the 70s, tonsils may be an important part of the immune system-which I no longer have.
At about 11 or 12 years old, I became very ill...bedridden, fever, severe joint pains; so much so that I had to use crutches for a week or so. Never went to the doctor, though I was taken to the elders to be prayed for and annointed with oil *rolls eyes*. My father suspected it was rheumatic fever, if he was right, that can have lasting effects and damage. Since I wasn't diagnosed by a doctor as having it though, it's not in my medical records, and in fact when I joined the military I was specifically told by the recruiter to not list it as a 'previous medical condition' because it would automatically disqualify me, and there was no proof I had it.
I'm not technically 'obese' by the medical definition, but I am overweight (6' 225 lbs). I have some very bad eating habits, and tend to binge eat on occasion. I think much of this stems from all the many fasts that I had to go on as a child in the WWCG, I learned at an early age to stuff myself before a fast, and often did so again after the fast was over.
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..Creative Insults..
by OUTLAW inevery once in awhile people will get choked with each other and name call..usually it`s not that creative..sh*thead..assh*le..ect..then there`s my favorites like hillary_step..that guy can insult an idiot and it`s unlikely the person will ever get it..lol!
!..that always cracks me up..lol!
!.....what i`m looking for is creative insults!
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AllAlongTheWatchtower
One of my personal favorites is to tell someone to point to their own head while spelling the abbreviation for the word mountain out loud. In a few hilarious (and maybe I'm evil for this) instances, I managed to get them to repeat it several times before they got it.
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Stillborn Topics
by compound complex instillborn adj.
1: dead at birth 2: failing from the start.
have any of your threads 'failed from the start'?.
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AllAlongTheWatchtower
Oh yeah, just recently I posted a miserable flop of a topic, about a possible connection between Jews and Japanese people; "lost tribes of Israel" type stuff. 0 replies.
"Do you know why?" I'm guessing cause 1) The subject matter sucked, and was rather esoteric. 2) I post in the wee hours of the morning US time, when most UK folks are just grabbing their first cup of coffee, if they're awake at all, and 3) I'm not a particularly well known person here, sorta on the fringes.
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A good fake name for an author
by OnTheWayOut inif we were to suppose that someone who wants to remain anonymous were to be writing .
about the watchtower society or his/her lifestory,.
and if we were to suppose that this writing were to start off their new career as an author, .
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AllAlongTheWatchtower
R U Fading
N U Light
Seymour Clear
Jen R Ation
Things that might give you a good idea:
Fawlty Towers (Monty Python comedy) http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/ilove/years/1975/tv1.shtml
John Noakes / John O'Noakes (used like John Doe, but specifically from English law in "actions of ejectment".) "Likewise, the Nuttall Encyclopaedia states that John O'Noakes or John Noakes is a fictitious name for a litigious person, used by lawyers in actions of ejectment." Ejectment sound like disfellowshipping to you? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_doe
Monty Green, or Miss Mondegreen (Lady Mondegreen: mondegreen is an invented word for when a person hears something incorrectly, from "laid him on the green" = lady mondegreen) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Mondegreen
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Reason for no windows in Kingdom Halls
by purplesofa ini found this newspaper article online today........jr brown makes a comment why there are no windows in kh's.
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/080106/enm_4104779.shtml.
by phillip milano, the times-union.
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AllAlongTheWatchtower
I've checked around the web seeing if I could figure something out about this, sites like answerbag.com, answers.yahoo.com, etc. The general concensus (amid a lot of arguements) seems to be that some have them, some don't-but the ones that don't tend to be more recently built. Maybe old ones were properties bought with pre-existing buildings on them? Anyway, I'd say this is one of those jumping-at-shadows things.
If I had to give my best edumacated guess, it'd be that it's due to the whole quick-build process. Brother x, y, and z, can help out with the build regardless of whether they know any carpentry skills, but start adding windows and other more skill-intensive features, suddenly you're done to only brother x knowing what to do. Brother x might even get a sense of self importance, and sinful pride. Can't have that. Next thing ya know, Brother x might want to get paid for his troubles.
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Do you forward "warning emails" ?
by JH inthen i read the warning, and i say to myself, maybe it's only a joke or maybe someone is trying to collect email addresses, so each time you forward, the list gets longer and someone might have many email addresses to send junk to afterwards.. i think that everyone should know that you shouldn't open an attachement from someone you don't know.
anyways here is the warning i received.....so yes i did forward it, but not through emails..... .
better safe than sorry.read the following.
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AllAlongTheWatchtower
Never.
AATW, of the doing-his-part-to-rid-the-world-of-klaxon class
This is klaxon: http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/klaxon.htm
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my favourite poem...what's yours?
by ninja inhttp://www.sharebigfile.com/file/183727/a-poem-mp3.html ...hope it works...if not can someone help me get it hosted?....cheers btw its by lascelles abercrombie
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AllAlongTheWatchtower
Mine is actually a whole book, its more prose than poetry in my opinion, but the subject matter is what I really like about it. It's called Spoon River Anthology, by Edgar Lee Masters. Each page in the book is an epitaph from a tombstone, as if written by the deceased buried beneath it, could they tell their story. All the people are from the same cemetary in a small town, and many of the stories as they unfold relate to each other...and sometimes from a vastly different viewpoint. Kinda morbid I guess, but it really is great stuff.
If anybody's interested, you can read the whole thing online legally here:
http://www.antelope-ebooks.com/Spoon/spoon.html Just click the downward pointing hands to "flip" the page to the next poem.
Tetrapod, if you should see this, some things you've said lately lead me to believe you'd appreciate this:
EZRA BARTLETT (Spoon River excerpt)
A chaplin in the army,
A chaplin in the prisons,
An exhorter in Spoon River,
Drunk with divinity, Spoon River --
Yet brining poor Eliza Johnson to shame,
And myself to scorn and wretchedness.
But why will you never see that the love of women,
And even love of wine,
Are the stimulants by which the soul, hungering for divinity,
Reaches the ecstatic vision
And sees the celestial outposts?
Only after many trials for strength,
Only when all stimulants fail,
Dose the aspiring soul
By its own sheer power
Find the devine
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JUST FOR FUN: Pranks you've played (computer or other)
by SnakesInTheTower inso the post from firenbandits http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/134960/1.ashx and the subsequent story reply had me thinking this would be a fun thread.. to start, i've copied a couple of the replies that were on that thread that had me dying laughing....and then one of my own.
what's the greatest prank you pulled or you seen pulled on someone (or pulled on you?)...
hope this brings smiles and lots of replies..... snakesinthetower (of the prankster sheep .
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AllAlongTheWatchtower
When I was in the Marines, there were several pranks we used to pull that usually involved sending some new guy in the unit down to supply to ask for various inane, nonexistent things, like;
A box of grid squares.
100 feet of flight line.
Form ID-10-T.
A PRICK E-7.
If you get all of the above, you're probably ex-military. If you don't and actually care, here's what they mean:
Grid squares...you know, like on a map. Only the poor schmuck sent to get them thinks they come in a box and must be made of plastic or something.
Flight line...as in, on an airstrip. The butt of the joke thinks he's asking for some kinda special rope.
Form ID-10-T, heck anybody can figure that one out, it's not just a military joke anymore.
PRICK E-7: The backpack radio/telephone that you see used in a lot of war movies is called a PRC-77, commonly called a PRICK-77. An E-7 is high ranking enlisted man. Luckily for newbies sent on this wild goose chase, MOST E-7s are well aware of the joke, and fairly tolerant.
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Racism within the borg
by icyestrm inacts 10:34 speaks of god as not being partial.
in the majority of pictures, the married couples are only of the same race and none of them are mixed.
i noticed that in other pictures of the so-called paradise, its segerated amongst races too.
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"In the majority of pictures, the married couples are only of the same race and none of them are mixed. I noticed that in other pictures of the so-called paradise, its segerated amongst races too." - icyestrm
I suspect this has more to do with personal perspective (which can be argued is passive racism, I s'pose) than with intentional racism. Authors, artists, etc, tend to do material on that which they already know or are familiar with; probably the artists just didn't think to include mixed race couples cause they don't have any personal friends or family who are.
"Jehovah’s witnesses at all times seek to reflect the Biblical view of matters. The Bible does not specifically discuss interracial marriage. It does, however, show how Jehovah God views humankind and it provides guiding principles for those considering marriage." - QFR as quoted by GermanXJW
Err...maybe I have this wrong, or maybe the NWT translates differently (big surprise there, right?), but I thought there was a passage in the OT about Moses, and his wife being an Ethiopian woman, and Aaron and Miriam being ticked off about it, then getting punished for their attitude? I'm also fairly sure there is a similar story about Solomon and one of his wives... Long time since I've actually given any credence to the bible, can't remember. As to the rest of that QFR, it almost sounds like the same drivel they've given as a reason to not have a beard..."oh no, it might STUMBLE somebody". What crap...maybe the GB should DF themselves for the 2 witness policy, seeing as that's stumbled so many so badly that they ended up on this website!
One thing I give the JWs credit for, is at least they preach a good line when it comes to racism, having never been one, I can't speak for how well it goes into practice. It was a far different thing for me growing up in the Worldwide Church of God under Armstrong, they actively taught that interracial marriage was wrong, because it was undoing what God had wrought or whatever (the seperation of races). You could actually be DF'ed from WWCG for it.