Posts by JWdaughter

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At what time frame of exit, could you technically sue for harassment?

by free2beme in

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i was thinking about this the other day.

i have not been a witness for nearly a decade now, and my spouse left the religion at the same time.

we never disassociated ourselves, as we did not want to play by the rules of an organization that we no longer honored as anything.

JWdaughter

Seems to me that if one time you tell them not to come by any more and they DO, then it should be harrassment.

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I Was in a Bad Collision

by Amazing in

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last night, i was struck nearly head-on by a person attempting a left turn as i passed through the intersection.

i was injured, as well as the other driver.

the police told me that he broke his arm, and was in shock.

Death,dying,mourning...more death

by Panda in

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it's almost 2 months since nick died.

i miss him much more, not less.

last week i had our dog chloe euthanised.

I'm sorry about your doggie. I know how much people come to love their pets. My mom gets very attached, and after losing people you love, I think the pets just become more important, and sometimes represent one more tie that is lost to the loved one. You took good care of him and he knows you love him. Take care of yourself.

Shelly

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Hiding in the Organization

by purplesofa in

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i have to tell a bit of background to get to the point of this post.

it will probably be long.. my brother called last night.

he is still very upset about our younger brothers suicide recently.

JWdaughter

I see it all the time in my own family. We have murderers in my family that feel superior to those of us who left or never joined.The others have issues also that from the outside look bad but they are in the org. And they did this stuff while IN the org. . .I am eternally grateful that the most psycho things in my family are extended family. My mom has some big issues, but she actually loves us. I am blessed and want to thank you for helping me keep some perspective when I am impatient with the twaddle I hear coming out of her, and their mouths.

Shelly

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in love with a very confused jw

by limitless in

hi guys,.

this is a fairly long story, so bear with me.... twelve years ago i dated a jw man briefly in new york.

we got along really well, but he stopped calling.

JWdaughter

You are right. He is confused. He is not, by JW definition, a JW. He is disfellowshipped. Which to a practicing JW is pretty much like taking up residence with Satan. If his family is doing what they are TOLD to do, they are shunning him. He is lonely for family.

You really will never be able to have a good relationship with this confused man until he comes out of it entirely-heart and soul. Looks like his heart is still in it. I don't know why he was disfellowshipped, but for his own piece of mind, he needs to determine if being a JW is really what he wants. Then he needs to do it. Or not. And go on with is life. If he wants to be a 'good JW' he ought to marry a REALLY good one that will keep him in line. However, now is a good time for him to examine the religion objectively-since he is out anyway, he has a right to fully investigate before considering going back in. Before even SPEAKING to an elder or family member about it. Because they will influence him in ways that DO NOT involve critical thinking. Read up on the organization, and how they come up with their eschatology etc. If he can remove the sentiment/rosy spectacles from his eyes, he may likely come out of the mess whole and true.

The problem in the meantime is that he was really dishonest with you for the last year. What I would do(and you might well think is a stupid idea) is to tell him to let you know when he has it together and all figured out. Be glad he didn't marry you and THEN come up with his true religous leanings. After a years relationship and thinking you are serious, I am kind of surprised that spirituality or religion did not come up at some point. There are people here who are married to JWs and I don't know how much religion was a factor when they married, but being honest about it seems like a big issue here. I hope you can resolve all this in a way that leaves you heart whole and feeling positive about how you dealt with it.

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The WT Using Machines to Replace Humans in the Door to Door Preaching!

by frankiespeakin in

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the reason for canning such a massive group of loyal workers with decades of service behind their belt was stated in the september km letter as:.

"improved technology has made our shipping and printing facilities more efficient.

this has reduced the need for volunteers in the bethel home.

JWdaughter

I saw the "Stepford Wives" when I was a kid. Made an impression on me. Everybody was supposed to act in a certain way, do certain things. I said to someone it kind of reminded me of the KH. I got a very dirty look from my friend Francie's mom-who was 'one of the annointed'.

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What Message is the GB Giving Mature Ones at Bethel With a Massive Lay Off?

by frankiespeakin in

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i wonder how this is effecting the morale of those mature ones still at bethel?

the governing body is in effect telling every one there you are all just pieces of shit to us(gb) and we can get rid of you any time we want because you are all just pieces of shit to us.

JWdaughter

I think that an interesting thing about this is that the WT's mortal 'enemy' is the Roman Catholic Church. When a person is too elderly to work anymore as a Priest, brother, Nun, sister, they retire to a place that is provided by the church. They are cared for and have medical needs met. And yet the JWs, who basically boot them into the world when many are too old to find a new career-think they are the true religion. PFFFFT.

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Disassociating oneself

by JWdaughter in

what if: the elders announce that so-and-so has disassociated themselves from the borg, and the person who is being disassociated stands up and says, excuse me, i have done no such thing!.

isn't the religion announcing that a person has disassociated themselves like an employer stating that an employee quit when they didn't have any intent to do so?

isn't that an employers way of getting some technical legal way out of paying severance etc?

JWdaughter

WHAT IF: The elders announce that so-and-so has disassociated themselves from the Borg, and the person who is being disassociated stands up and says, EXCUSE me, I have done NO such thing!

Isn't the religion announcing that a person has disassociated themselves like an employer stating that an employee quit when they didn't have any intent to do so? Isn't that an employers way of getting some technical legal way out of paying severance etc? So isn't that the WT way of avoiding any legal conflict? Is that in itself illegal in some sense? It seems like it should be!

Shelly

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"Pasoral CARE Visitation" by elduhs HAHAHAHAH (scully) WHY???

by hamsterbait in

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i read in another thread, that elders are using the permissions granted in the new blood card, ( to access medical records) to do "pastoral care visitation" on witless patients who were stupid enough to grant access to medical records by elders.. it is basically an excuse to find out who is toeing the line on the blood issue.

conscience?

my sphincter!!.

JWdaughter

The new HIPPA law is supposed to protect patient privacy. I would hate to think that a JW could access my mom's files. After a miscarriage about 30 years ago she had a D&C. I am sure that the undereducated among the JWs would make assumptions about that. . .

OTOH, I never saw them (at her last visit when I req a visit for her(at her request-as no one had shown up yet after nearly a week)look at her chart.

What specifically does a person do that would allow a pastoral care visitor look in someones charts (In canada)-what is the form language?

Shelly

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Why I'm here

by Calico Ethel in

the last 10 years of my life have been not the greatest to say the least.

my mother became a jw when i was about 5 yrs.

old and then of course, she made us kids go to the kh with her.

JWdaughter

Welcome! You are among friends who 'get' where you are coming from. I hope all your hopes and aspirations for your future come to fruition. Thanks for coming on board!!!

Shelly