Posts by JWdaughter

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Thinking of Going Full Disclosure With Wife. Sorta

by freemindfade in

jw
friends

soliciting any and all opinions.

as some of you may know, wife is full in pioneer.

my fade has gone from us fighting.

JWdaughter

Just be aware of all of the consequences to both you and her-and evaluate if they are something you can live with. If you have kids, go to the worst case scenario there-can you live with that? Divorce is one thing-losing birth family and every friend since infancy might be harder. Jobs, whatever else will be affected

If being true to yourself is the most important and critical thing, you REALLY need to ask yourself why and how that has practical value to you emotionally and in practical terms. What will you do with your freedom that will truly change your life? Cause you are going to live with it. There is no easy or perfect answer. Every solution has its own challenges and heartaches. You have to think for yourself about what will hurt you more.

I wish you well. I left the WT and later Christianity. I honestly lost a lot more when I left Christianity. Family, society, work-our country is NOT tolerant to folks rejecting (in their view) Jesus. You are basically doing both at once, so double whammy for you, I think. Be careful. Everything in your heart doesn't need to leave your mouth. I am speaking from my own hurt and my own regrets, but I hope that they give you a little extra discenment and more to think about, friend.

Maybe I think being true to yourself is a little overrated sometimes. My American heart and soul rejects this heartily, but my reality is that my kids rejected me. My ex has tried to make me an unindicted co-conspirator and accused me of unspeakable things in court filings then just leaves me hanging without being able to answer because of his delays. My teenage child in the meantime has been told that I am out to harm him, his dad and America.

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GB Permits Texas Two-Step on Kingdom Hall Stage, etc.

by TakeOffTheCrown in

the governing body not writing their own articles is on this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/370640004/gb-providing-food-helpers-write-articles?size=10&page=1.

but, something more sinister, more serious is taking place in the congregations.

the governing body have allowed very disturbing activities to take place in the kingdom halls and during the conventions.

JWdaughter

No small irony that they were country dancing to "footloose", huh? Remember the movie?

Footloose

By Kenny Loggins

I've been working so hard
I'm punching my card
Eight hours for what?
Oh, tell me what I got
I've got this feeling
That time's just holding me down
I'll hit the ceiling or else
I'll tear up this town

Now I gotta cut loose
Footloose, kick off the Sunday shoes
Please, Louise, pull me off of my knees
Jack, get back, come on before we crack
Lose your blues, everybody cut footloose

You're playing so cool, obeying every rule
Dig a way down in your heart
You're burning yearning for some
Somebody to tell you that life ain't passing you by
I'm trying to tell you
It will if you don't even try
You'll get by if you'd only

Cut loose, footloose, kick off the Sunday shoes
Ooh-wee Marie shake it, shake it for me
Woah, Milo come on, come on let's go
Lose your blues, everybody cut footloose

You got to turn me around and put your
Feet on the ground, now take the hold of all
Ah ah ah ah ah
I'm turning you loose

Footloose, kick off the Sunday shoes
Please, Louise, pull me off of my knees
Jack, get back, come on before we crack
Lose your blues, everybody cut footloose (footloose)

http://rutube.ru/video/6087817e25458c204428b5bcbf02d5b7/

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An interesting theory on Stephen Lett

by joe134cd in

interesting theory i thought on stephen lett.

if anything i would of thought tomo3 would of caused them more grief with his comments.. http://insidethewatchtower.com/governing-body/stephen-lett-dumped-from-governing-body/.

JWdaughter

He's such a joke that whatever he says is going to be glossed over by the fact that people were distracted by the odd delivery. He can say anything and JWs will forget it consciously. Which is just as well for the most part. How many JWs give a crap about the may broadcast? They tuned out consciously as they had to. He is unwatchable in the extreme. So, the stuff he was saying never hit them directly, it is just going to get in as osmosis and they wont even know why they are giving more.

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Caleb's Logic - Do the math

by Esse quam videri in

the scene is the kitchen table where we find calebs dad and mom in conversation.

dad - a letter?

mom so we are going to write a letter to everyone we know and ask them to give us some of their money, so that we have as much money coming in as is going out.

JWdaughter

Yeah, I heard that little talk and I thought of all the preaching I had gotten about planning and being sensible, yada yada. Wise stewards. . . ALL that. And didn't they just pat themselves on the back a lot about that, too?

I hope that the money dries up like the grass in Western Washington has during the recent heat wave. And I hope that the WT never gets another "rainy" day to refresh them.

Honestly, I wish all the JWs of the world would just stop donating entirely in protest of stupidity, if nothing else!!

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Hello Everyone

by MarieK in

i hope everyone is having a good saturday.

i've visited this many times in the past month or so, joined yesterday and finally got the nerve to post!

needless to say, i'm super nervous, being new to this whole experience.

JWdaughter

Welcome!

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Convention Before Op

by disillusioned 2 in

my mum today was told that she urgently needs a pacemaker.

the doctor said he would push this through as quickly as possible.. my mum was more concerned about it clashing with her convention!

she told me she would rather leave the op till after the convention even though the doctor said it was urgent.

JWdaughter

The convention is only 3 days. The problem is that scheduling is a bugger and just moving it back 3 days isn't so likely a scenario. SHe is better off telling dr.(or nurse) right now that she needs it to be on/before/after such and such a day if she is going to stubbornly wait til after the convention. My ex had a pacemaker and it doesn't keep you out of total commission for too long. If she gets it beforehand and gets a wheelchair and help, she might be able to manage soon after the surgery. Not ideal, but your mom doesn't seem to be open to practical. Depending on the venue, it might work or not, but we all know that JWs are nutty about conventions. What are you gonna do? Remind her to make sure her will is updated?

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Comparing JWs to Jews

by CalebInFloroda in

some have asked how my views and convictions have changed over the past 15 years or so after leaving the watchtower behind to return to my familys roots and embrace judaism.

the best way to explain things is to allow both the religion of the watchtower and my life as a jew today to stand side-by-side for comparison.

while i cant guarantee this will help prove to others that the jehovahs witnesses are truly a crazy religious group, i am sure it will prove to most that jews probably are, and are quite aware of it.

JWdaughter

LOL, so what you are saying is that Jews have a sense of humor.

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I joined this site 13 years ago...

by Funchback in

hello, everyone.. as noted in the topic, i joined here 13 years ago.

i last posted here over 5 years ago.

i just now learned that this site still exists!

JWdaughter

Welcome.

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ladies , its not just me, is it?..

by sowhatnow in

ok ladies, has there been any documented studies on the role religion or society plays in keeping women in an economical and social disadvantaged state ?

im wondering how many other women out there in the world, who either being raised or being long term followers of a strict religious faith,with traditional family structures, have upon either divorce or death of a spouse find it nearly impossible to find a mate or economic stability , and live out the remainder of their lives struggling and either bouncing from one guy to another, being disappointed or used, or simply alone.

i have personally felt, that i, being a xjw and now divorced woman , with no acceptable work skills,[ ie: fancy resume with degrees] living of low wage part time work and barely any alimony , will simply be viewed as someone trying to get another man to support her.

JWdaughter

Aw,dont' say that you have nothing to offer. That's not true and I say that knowing nothing about you other than what I have read over time. Stop selling yourself short. There are still folks out there that value what you are and what you have, but first of all, YOU need to. Otherwise you will just meet guys like your ex.

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ladies , its not just me, is it?..

by sowhatnow in

ok ladies, has there been any documented studies on the role religion or society plays in keeping women in an economical and social disadvantaged state ?

im wondering how many other women out there in the world, who either being raised or being long term followers of a strict religious faith,with traditional family structures, have upon either divorce or death of a spouse find it nearly impossible to find a mate or economic stability , and live out the remainder of their lives struggling and either bouncing from one guy to another, being disappointed or used, or simply alone.

i have personally felt, that i, being a xjw and now divorced woman , with no acceptable work skills,[ ie: fancy resume with degrees] living of low wage part time work and barely any alimony , will simply be viewed as someone trying to get another man to support her.

JWdaughter

I think it isn't just about religion. It is a cultural shift. We are valued only by a list of stuff we have or accomplished. Marriage and relationships are not valued in the current generation, but if one is coming from the previous generation, the new generations expectations of job/financial success and accomplishment (particularly for women) are held up as expected, even though they were not held out as respectable measurements of womanhood in those earlier generations. So, people like my son have no respect for any woman who isn't ambitious and money oriented. Suddenly women in traditional roles are just money grubbers or layabouts, rather than displaced, unskilled homemakers or even (god forbid) women who really want to be homemakers and raise a family. That gets no respect. And if that was the path, thwarted, then they are screwed and trying to justify their existance on the planet.

I'm not even a JW woman but some of them don't even have kids, just few marketable skills and a marginal, dismissive ex who justifies themselves with the woman's status as an apostate(ish) person.

Don't look at men for anything other than what they are. They have been put into roles that they may not prefer, also. Just deal with the people you meet as people. No expectations. See what pans out. Find some nice women to hang around with.

Having a relationship seems to be the goal. Some folks don't have relationship in 'em. Take them(or not!) for what they are and move on if they are uncompatible. Do things at night that interest you.Couch potatoes won't be there. They will be home watching tv