Your relationship with your daughter is still tender. She was blaming you for taking her to kingdom halls, right?. I think that your relationship with her is more critically important than you sitting with friend and rehashing stupidity after the meeting. Support her by letting her rehash and when there is a good reason, ask a question to make HER think. Her telling you what they teach will underline the inanity of it all better than you could with a whole speech.
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Shall I go to the meeting? Would you?
by KateWild inhi guys,.
i might go to the meeting.
i stopped going in my heart properly in nov 2013, but i went to a couple of meetings to support a love one that was df'd and tried to teach them a little ttatt.. now another df'd loved one is coming to see me today and will likely encourage me to try and get ri'd, and i want to support her.
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New letter, re: Fully Utilizing Kingdom Hall Auditoriums
by suavojr inlet the merging begin!!!.
to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.
re: fully utilizing kingdom hall auditoriums.
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This was predicted here by even before the new hall style came out. What is missing is that they will find reasons to sell and build a lot at first with their shell game. Then they will find more and more reasons (never shrinkage) to re-arrange congregations. Like school or voting districts rather than straightforward splits some of the time. That's how they will hide the contraction in growth.
Don't forget, they have a master plan.
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Futility of being right
by JWdaughter inso, on another thread, about pluto, grreat teacher said something that speaks to my feelings about religon.
"i've kinda been sad since pluto has been demoted to dwarf planet.. you talk about 9 planets and all the little kids at school will correct you real quick and tell you that now there are only 8 planets in the solar system!".
nothing in the universe has changed but the opinion of men.
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exJW Billboard is up.
by cappytan inwaiting on higher resolution photos from wifibandit.. but here is the (redacted) notification from the company.
apparently they take photos with a potato.. (the billboard directs folks to http://jwawake.com ).
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Better than I thought it would be! Easy to read, from my kindle:) -
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Very sad news - Amber Scorah
by Nicky Whitehouse inmany of you know amber scorah as the ex jw writer who wrote this very inspiring article: http://www.believermag.com/issues/20130 ... cle_scorahshe has been an inspiration to many, many people as they navigate their way through the many feelings and issues that come with leaving the jw cult.amber is also my cousin.on monday, she lost her 3 month old baby son, karl.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/07/15/ny ... .html?_r=0 understandably, she is devastated - and now facing mounting medical bills, funeral expense and more.
a foundation has been set up to help them face these costs.
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Article: Inside the Jehovah's Witnesses' British Headquarters
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.vice.com/read/inside-the-jehovahs-witnesses-british-headquarters-829.
vice.
inside the jehovah's witnesses' british headquartersby adam forrestoct 8 2014. .
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JWdaughter
Yeah, this DA'd and shunned person laughed at the statement of how I would not be shunned for being disassociated.
I hate lies, they really just piss me off.
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Crisis of Conscience
by The_Doctor10 infor those of you who haven't attempted to read or just haven't been able to obtain a copy of crisis of conscience by former gb member raymond franz, if you're interested, here's a link to an audio playlist reading of it:.
playlist.
this person has made it his goal to put into audio form raymond franz's book.
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Futility of being right
by JWdaughter inso, on another thread, about pluto, grreat teacher said something that speaks to my feelings about religon.
"i've kinda been sad since pluto has been demoted to dwarf planet.. you talk about 9 planets and all the little kids at school will correct you real quick and tell you that now there are only 8 planets in the solar system!".
nothing in the universe has changed but the opinion of men.
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So, on another thread, about Pluto, Grreat Teacher said something that speaks to my feelings about religon.
"I've kinda been sad since Pluto has been demoted to dwarf planet.
You talk about 9 planets and all the little kids at school will correct you real quick and tell you that now there are only 8 planets in the solar system!"
Nothing in the universe has changed but the opinion of men. Some men. And because some men say there are only 8 planets (and kids agree!) ok, now there are 8.
Nothing in the universe changed but someones opinion of what constitues a planet. Do I think Jesus died on a cross or a stake? Do I think we are saved by works or by faith? How do I figure end times chronology?
Most every religious debate is pointless. What "I" think about any of it fundamentally doesnt matter if I am an asshole to the the people around me. And If someones ideas are so crazy that they are doing insane things, you couldn't change their ideas anyway. They are just nuts and deal with their actions appropriately. I like discussing religious ideas, but weighing it down with judgment and disrespect puts me off that particular pasttime.
I think what got me going on this was the "little kids at school correct you real quick" comment. What ugly thing inside us has to always be RIGHT? Especially when it doesn't matter?
I am actually a horrible person this way. I am so aware of this flaw of mine these days. I would like to blame it on JW thinking/upbringing,but its not just a JW thing. Its a character flaw that I think being a JW can exacerbate, but I haven't been a JW for over 30 years. REALLY, this is my own flaw that I need to deal with, but I am not even sure what it is and I don't know how to make that inclination go away. I am a lot better about shutting up (sometimes), but its like I'm fighting a natural instinct, like trying to make myself left handed. Its just what I do-I argue to prove I am right (I get out of the discussion when I am uncomfortable and I will not sleep to stay in one if I am enjoying it)
This is not an attractive quality. Insights welcome.
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Thinking of Going Full Disclosure With Wife. Sorta
by freemindfade insoliciting any and all opinions.
as some of you may know, wife is full in pioneer.
my fade has gone from us fighting.
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Faye and others. I am like most Muslims I know-we just want to worship one god. We can call the crap on both sides-extremists and haters . Unfortunately (for me), most Muslims are more in danger from Islamist extremists than anyone. I have family that has been directly affected. I also have family that has had exactly the same family honor issues my birth family did. Molested child and the perp mysteriously disappeared (old days when going to the police was NOT done for that in any culture) Dead adulterers where the widow was excused as it was a crime of passion because it ws a spouse.
Sometimes I think our culture think we are centuries ahead of the rest of the world and socially, we are maybe 15 years ahead in most ways:)
I don't care what brand of christian anyone claims to be. We know who loves God by the way they treat others. Whatever religion one is. Its personal. If I knew then what I know now, I would have left religion off my plate and kept my faith in God to myself. It doesn't fit in any box I've ever found so well as Islam. But that is not the scholarly version just the simple one. Scholars make me itch-bible, Hadith, physics. . .
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My introduction and confession
by elderINewton inwell another big bad elder here just wanting to say sorry.. i'm sorry that so many were treated like crap, and shown that god's love is not to be found around jehovah's witnesses.
i'm sorry that inadvertently i've likely taught many to judge and as such see that racism permeates every corner of the jw world, else why else would someone be of the world, or even inactive.
i'm sorry i sat in on a jc, and voted to df.
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JWdaughter
Welcome!