i wouldn't be here wasn't it for a link on google on the moscow ban that led me here.
i am shocked by the hatred many of you display in your posts.
some claim that we break up marriages, yet some of the happiest couples i know are faithfull brothers and sisters.
I'm just glad JWs peek in the door that leads to freedom. He may have peeked and run, and it pisses me off when they hurl insults, but Alexander whoever whereever you are....you got a glimpse of freedom. Alexander go to the un official site, www.un.org type in "Watchtower" and read it.
Faith, of the expanded mind class
considering the manner of the "company men" in the org., would things be worse without it - generally that is, not individually.
without the fear and rules generated by literal understandings of the spiritual writings, would these same folk be simply out of control in the wider society ?
fundamentalism may well control and restrain people who would otherwise be running amock.
That does sound interesting Gary. It makes you wonder. The problem is that the ones with social disorders carry it with them into the local Kingdom Halls. It is a safe place that can protect sociopaths. The meek ones within the org are sitting ducks. I think it just makes a bad situation worse. It may look better on the outside with the rigid structure. I was one of the lowest ones in the org. I was an easy target. The child of a single working mother.
just curious......
I went from having a personal relationship with the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, to having a personal relationship with God through Jesus. That means I talk to Jesus, surrendered my life and all it's problems to him. There was a long interlude between the two while I did a lot of research.
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what do most ex jws become, christian, athiest/agnostic or some other religion?
and since we all need to be labelled, what do i call myself now?
Welcome JWfacts! I am new to posting here myself. This is a wonderful Forum. It makes me feel so happy when I read of so many who have found freedom. I know we have all heard it from our friends and relatives who are still in the Org. They say how happy they are, content, peaceful and free. I know that is a crock.
I am FREE now. Label me FREE. Free to know that I am saved by grace and not knocking on doors or going to meetings. When people ask me what denomination I am, it is really hard to explain. I hate religion, but am a pastors wife. I am a pastors wife but I love riding on the back of hubby's motorcyle in black leather. I eat a vegan diet but wear leather. I don't believe in organized religion but I organize neighborhood charities and church activities. My favorite church is non denominational but has grown all over the world maybe hundreds of churches from one little tiny church full of dirty barefoot drug addicted hippies. I am 45 and dress anyway I darn well please! I have chronic illness yet I have an abundant life. It took me 13 years to get here after being disassociated for dangerous "Independant Thinking."
After life in the Watchtower we spread out in many different directions. Even though we go our separate ways, we all are bound by our JW past. It is so good to have the freedom to support one another here wherever we are at!
LOVE,
Faith
ok i just have a few questions ive always wanted to ask.
this is open to non christians as well.
can christians actually somehow communicate with the lord like ive heard and read so many times.
All you posters here are awesome! Thank you everyone who has been here posting faithfuly all these years. I have read many threads for many years. I know we all have different results from a similar experience within the Borg. Those of us who experienced it are bound together by that experience and I salute you all as fellow survivors. I'm glad this forum is here as a wonderful place to express, share and reach out. Those of you that didn't experience it firsthand, thank you for caring enough to learn about us. That means you too Evanescence, you are a sweetheart.
My experiences with God goes beyond even the words to describe it. That is my experience. I respect and love you who have not had the same. Thank you Homesteader for the Welcome! I love the lryics that you quoted from that old song. I have recently been introduced, this last year, to all the old American and European Christian hyms. We sing that one at church. I have been practicing the song "I'll Fly Away" to play and sing on the guitar with my husband on the banjo to sing for the church;
Some bright morning when this life is over, I'll fly away.
To a land on God's celestial shore, I'll fly away.
I'll fly away oh glory I'll fly away.
When I die hal la lu ia by and by...I'll fly away. Simple songs that make you feel so good.
I hope everyone has a great week! Life is good.
Love,
Faith
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i don't know what to say here, i've typed this 10 times...and deleted it.
i just feel really, really alone.. goodnight.
I did that too for quite some time. Stayed busy. I do agree with the one poster's post on happiness. Even though I secluded myself for all those years, I still reached out through my computer and tried to help others trapped in Org limbo by listening. Sometime people just need someone to listen. I also sent books out free to people that were just coming out. I did phone counseling and networked with professionals to do phone counseling for some who could not get counseling. I figured, you can't get in trouble by extending love.
My run to get ahead time broke my body down. I have genetic disease and lupus. The stress was too much. My life now is slower. The best I can do is do good for others. I have a lot of ex JW friends I met on AOL. I hope to go to the PA convention to meet them in person. They have gotten together regularly all these years but I was too sick, too poor, or too single to ever meet them at one of the conventions. 2005 WNFJ they are meeting in October. I'm hoping to make it this year.
After the Borg I suffered through a frantic list of bad relationships. So many moves looking for something in another town. Now with my beloved quirky understanding husband we have a perfect life and I found true happiness. Even he were to leave me or die I would still have my happiness, I would just be alone again. Being alone was a good thing for me.
Enjoy being with yourself. You are an incredible human being capable of giving copious amounts of love. I know what you mean when you say the more you tried to fix things the worse they became. Same here till I came to a complete surrender. Sometimes I held on too tight. I let it all go and just commited to loving others. We can NEVER go wrong giving to others and then when the love comes it will be meaningful. You never know where it will come from either. Sometimes when and where you least expect it!
Love,
Faith
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i don't know what to say here, i've typed this 10 times...and deleted it.
i just feel really, really alone.. goodnight.
Dearest Wanderlust,
I can fully understand exactly what you are expressing. I went through a long period of time alone. I did it because I was so screwed up in my head for the first 32 years of my life, that I spent the next 7years making bad choices. I knew that something was just not right inside me. Even though I had come to a complete understanding of what the Organization had done to me, all the lies, I still was not making good decisons. I never felt right with the general population either. How many are there of us?
I do not encourage you to do what I did but I'm going to tell you just to share how I dealt. First I kinda just gave up. I gave it all over to God and I didn't care what happened to me anymore. I ended up with nothing but two suitcases and no home. Fine. Whatever. I gave up trying.
I ended up secluding myself for about six years. My health was also bad from years of Borg stress and making bad choices. I ended up in a little cabin way out in the middle of nowhere. I did not date. I would get very lonely sometimes but the time in seclusion was good for me. My dog was my best friend.
Last year by freak chance I met a man that fit me and my quiet life. My life now is wonderful and perfect and he is as quirky as I am. His loving nature amazes me. I am 45 now. If this is as good as it gets I am truly happy and at peace. Have you really read over Danny Haszards site? I find him very cathartic as he puts into words what we have suffered better than anybody.
I truly am sorry you are going through what you are. You are not as alone as you feel. Nobody knows what it feels like to be raised in the shadows of Armageddon. Nobody knows what that mental cruelty is like but us. When I did make it to the other side of that seclusion, I found that I had a lot more to offer the world. OMG Homer Simpson is cracking me up. The May 8, 2005 episode is too funny. It's called "Thank God It's Doomsday" hehe Homer had a board in his hand for Armageddon calculations HAHAHA!!!!!!
Love,
Faith
venus and serena williams get their own reality show .
in a press release, serena said "the series will provide our fans with an up-close, inside look at our lives away from the tennis courts.
" hmmm.
Rebel for one moment that fantasy gave me hope. IT COULD HAPPEN! Like I said before;
YOU DA MAN DANNY!
Keep going strong we got your back,
Love,
Faith
venus and serena williams get their own reality show .
in a press release, serena said "the series will provide our fans with an up-close, inside look at our lives away from the tennis courts.
" hmmm.
I had one teacher in Elementary School who refused to allow me to be in the classroom if I refused to salute the flag. She escorted me out every stinking morning to the steps where I waited until she allowed me to come in. She often forgot about me, or maybe she just wanted to punish mr more. An entire school year starting my day as a shunned freak. Being a shunned freak was better than being tortured and dieing at Armageddon at 15 in 1975.
Maybe we shouldn't be too hard on the sisters. If they were raised in it by two faced parents, they may be clueless.
my history,.
47 years doing the jw thing from the age of 3.. many good times and many times i thought i was worthless especially as a teenager.
couldn't be good enough to please some elders.
WELCOME
I am a newby to this board also. There is a sweet elderly man that is a friend in his eighties and he often says "I wish I could be a kid again" I cringe and tell him, not for me thanks it was a nightmare.
Freedom is a wonderful way to choose to live.
