Posts by daystar

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When's the last time you went to the Kingdom Hall?

by JH in

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it's been a little over a year for me.. about 15 months..

daystar

I took the girl I was dating at the time.
Was she a "worldly" gal?

Well, I hadn't been to any sort of meeting for 5 or 6 years by then, so I rather was as well. But yes, she was a very "worldly" gal.

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When's the last time you went to the Kingdom Hall?

by JH in

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it's been a little over a year for me.. about 15 months..

daystar

Memorial back in probably 1996 or 1997. I took the girl I was dating at the time.

We were both pretty weirded out. "Don't ever take me to something like that again..." "Not a problem..."

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how many atheist and agnostics on this site

by dannygwalsh in

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hi everyone just a question to satisfy my curiosity , and if you are a non believer are you happier for being so

an internet forum that has become cultish

by rebel8 in

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link.

a few years ago i used to frequent the above-linked forum.

it was founded to discuss etiquette--namely, how to avoid offending others and how to deal with the rude behavior of others without being rude back.

daystar

People like that are legends in their own minds.

I really did laugh out loud when I read "power hungry". Power hungry on a frickin' "etiquette" forum?! Petty and idiotic. Must take etiquette pretty darn seriously I guess.

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how many atheist and agnostics on this site

by dannygwalsh in

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hi everyone just a question to satisfy my curiosity , and if you are a non believer are you happier for being so

daystar

I am an atheist with theistic leanings. If that's not confusing enough, I'll elaborate.

I don't believe in some supreme being(s) which doles out law, punishment and reward. This is a function for control that has been misused for centuries by priest and politician in order to maintain control over the masses. This is fairly self-evident, IMO.

I do believe in, and have seen evidence of, the power of belief to cause some pretty amazing things (both negative and positive) to occur, both in individual lives and in the world at large. The Universe seems to have the particular characteristic of providing evidence for anything a person chooses to believe in, whether theistic or atheistic in nature. This is also fairly self-evident, IMO.

There is no god but man.

On the other hand, I have been entertaining an interesting (at least to me) philosophical conundrum. The Universe seems to be less material than it is mental in nature, as if matter is a manifestation of the mind resulting from lower levels of what I can only call energy. Additionally, the nature of the individual also seems to be entirely mental. I only exist to the extent to which I perceive with my mind that I exist. Where does my mind reside? Is it within the brain? Is it somehow outside of the brain but somehow also tied to it? Certainly certain areas of my brain could be stimulated to revive certain memories, to cause me to smell certain things. But the id, ego and superego, do they also somehow exist there. I seem to exist otherwise entirely as a mental construct. It's as if the brain is a transmitter/receiver. I know guys, all pseudoscience and untested theory on my part. Just some ideas I've been throwing around.

What are gods if not also mental constructs? Do they exist any less than I do simply because we cannot tie them to the material realm?

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My dad's email response to my UN and Blood Issue questions.

by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit in

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i always thought that my dad was a smart man, that he still had his common sense, but now i see that's not true.

and for some stupid reason, this has really got to me tonight.

i'm sharing the content of this discussion so that maybe someone else can see the ignorance of this horrible religion of people who cannot really love because their evil bible won't let them.

daystar

Typical whitewash. "Big deal?!" "So what?!" It is a big deal and they're in denial of it. What they fail, again and again, to realize is the blow to the WBTS integrity when they agreed to support the ideals of the UN(The Great Beast) in order to obtain that totally unnecessary library card. So they sold their souls to the Great Best to get access to a library. How cute! So what?

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Yes, What You Really Wear Does Matter !

by The wanderer in

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yes, your clothing really does matterbeing one of jehovah's witnesses always made.

the individual conscious of the clothes you were .

the men had to wear suits and the women.

daystar

Odd that. My old cong. never seemed to have a problem with sweaters in the wintertime. We didn't always have to wear complete suits either. We could wear slacks with shirts (long or short-sleeved) and ties, without having to wear a suit-coat. But then again, this is Texas and it gets pretty damn hot.

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If Someone Hurts You Or Pisses You Off, How Do You Usually Deal With It?

by minimus in

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just curious.

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I am not very quick to anger at all.

It depends largely upon the intention with me. I consider who the person is and if what they did or said match what I know of them. It could very well be due to a misunderstanding or miscommunication.

If it appears that they did or said what they did with malicious intent, I might be more ready with a very sharp tongue at least. But then again, I'll also give some room for stupidity.

If something occurs over and over again, I will lay down the law... once. If it happens again, they deal with the consequences.

And this is all regarding interactions with adults.

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thanks all

by BlackSwan of Memphis in

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this is so not easy to do.. a thread the other day asked why we post here.

why do i post here?

i said i was bored.

daystar

You'll be missed. Hurry back!

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After you left JWs how did you work out what you believe now

by awol in

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i left jws 10 yrs ago and have just considered myself drifted.

never df'd.

could never go back as i personally found it too hard to live up to.

daystar

My take on it all is that it's all a big

My opinion now is that belief is where the trouble lies. I am content holding theories about life. I understand that there is so very little that is ultimately certain. And I'm rather okay with that.

I live for now, hoping, perhaps, that something good happens to me after I die, but living on the assumption that nothing but nonexistence awaits me there.

I study things that interest me, I enjoy meeting people, making new friends, spending time with my son and loving my One. I find that it is enough.

I understand what you're going through though. I was out for years before I found out about the generation change and the UN/NGO scandal. I was pretty floored. I mean, I didn't believe the JW paradigm any more by that time, but to realize that I was effectively in a cult!? It was unbelievable.

Give it time. You'll be fine. Meet up with JWDers at the next apostafest in your area! Fantastic array of people!