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  The farce called Christianity

  by sinis in

  1. watchtower
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  jesus as a mythical copycat.

  - by acharya s .

  - his father is god and his mother is a mortal virgin.

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  Daystar Christianity is not enslaving if practiced by the whole community to the contrary it is liberating. True though the ideal conditions of spiritual behaviour were never put in place. Many of the ancient Greek philosophers were also very much against abandon to bodily passions:"Being a slave to fleshly desires is worse than being a slave to a tyrrant" says Pythagoras.

  I'm sure you can understand that some people can feel liberated while also not being truly free. Some people prefer to have their hand held, to be told what they can and cannot do. They feel better when they don't have the responsibility of judging right and wrong for themselves.

  Now, I'm not suggesting complete abandon to bodily passions. Self-discipline is desirable. However, the blanket, superstitious "thou shalt nots" are only liberating in that it frees a person from having to judge for themselves the rightness or wrongness of a thing.
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  true friendship, true brotherhood??

  by Ade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  recently we received a phone call, .

  it was a sister whom we had known from the first kingdom hall we attended .she broke in to conversation concerning my health !!

  asking how i was, this firstly was mightily shocking and secondly not allowed as i am da'd.knowing this sister however ( i will for no reason state that she is the wife of an elder, he being a genuine person whom i wish i could draw away from the lies ) i waited for the true reason of the call.

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  ade

  This goes on for some time, each time your life being risked by being pushed into the road.Each time you forgive the man.
  Does this mean you continue to allow him to push you, no you simply cross and walk down the opposite side of the road.Have you forgiven the man - Yes. Have you forgotten - No ,because you need to recall the past for it holds valuable lessons for us all, in all aspects of life.

  I mean no disrespect, but this is one way the humanist religions enslave their constituents. I don't mean someone should harbor resentment. It's not healthy. But one should do something about it. In your example, I would have given the man the benefit of the doubt once. The next time he pushes, he gets slammed to the ground.

  To me, and again, I mean no disrespect, it seems weak and to have a victim mentality. You become rather easy to push around. In other words, a sheep. Maybe that is what you want. Maybe you assume the shepherd to have good intentions. I do not. I've seen too many "shepherds" have nothing but evil intentions, even if well-intended.
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  The farce called Christianity

  by sinis in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jesus as a mythical copycat.

  - by acharya s .

  - his father is god and his mother is a mortal virgin.

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  daystar

  as the world had grown tired of being slaves to the fleshly passions.

  Hmm... interesting take on that. So they traded "slavery" to natural and instinctual drives with slavery to a slave-god, or more precisely to an earthly regime claiming to speak for him...
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  The farce called Christianity

  by sinis in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jesus as a mythical copycat.

  - by acharya s .

  - his father is god and his mother is a mortal virgin.

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  Too long for me to read in its entirity at the mo'. But I get the jist.

  Just how does this make Christianity a "Farce" exactly, as opposed to just about every other religion on earth? In many ways, it was just an attempt at taking a working system for redemption and replacing the polytheistic characteristics with monotheistic ones.

  It's all an exercise in what system will function better for control of the masses.
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  A 30 minute sermon dispelling jw's

  by esw1966 in

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  here is an interesting 30 minute sermon about what jw's believe and where their beliefs conflict with the bible.. frontage roads.

  (mormonism & jehovahs witnesses).

  november 2324, 2002. pastor bob marvel.

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  I know that doesn't bode well in a place of vengeful angry people who have not gotten over there anger against the society and given up on searching for something God has done and given us - love, forgiveness, and life and freedom.

  Woah... Since I don't care for Christian antics generally anyway, I didn't listen to that. But I think you're painting everyone here with a pretty broad brush there.
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  I will be turning in my resignation today.

  by AK - Jeff in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  from the dubs.

  after being cornered and tired of the games, i suggested kevin elder meet me and i would give him my letter of da.

  he doesn't know it has been posted on this forum and on jwfacts site for a week or better, and that i sent many copies of it out to former friends last friday.

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  {{{Jeff}}}
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  Property is theft?

  by Narkissos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from one language or one continent to another very similar words often have very different meanings.

  perhaps notions too.. one striking example (for a french user of an english forum) is the political/economical use of the notion of "freedom / liberty".. for instance, "liberalism" in current english seems to be fairly equivalent to "left-wing" (on almost any issue, whether moral, social or economical).

  in french, liberalisme points to low state involvement in economic or social issues, which is clearly a right-wing doctrine.

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  Nark,

  At an early point in US history, dems were for weak government (low state involvement) and at some point they switched, no doubt as issues shifted.
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  true friendship, true brotherhood??

  by Ade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  recently we received a phone call, .

  it was a sister whom we had known from the first kingdom hall we attended .she broke in to conversation concerning my health !!

  asking how i was, this firstly was mightily shocking and secondly not allowed as i am da'd.knowing this sister however ( i will for no reason state that she is the wife of an elder, he being a genuine person whom i wish i could draw away from the lies ) i waited for the true reason of the call.

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  parakeet

  Ade, it takes an exceptional person to forgive the JWs and show compassion to those who have treated you badly.

  I will agree that perhaps some individuals might be forgiven. But there are some things for which no forgiveness is possible. I can forgive the brothers and sisters for not speaking with me. They were towing the line.

  But I cannot forgive them for ignoring my mother, who has always been active, when she's been battling cancer. I cannot forgive the child abusers. I cannot easily forgive the elders, etc. who have been essential in destroying so many families. And I will never forgive the WBTS. There is no way that the GB and the Org could make up for one hundred years of destructive mind-control.

  I can let it not effect me. Meaning that it no longer eats at me. But I reserve my forgiveness for those who deserve it.

  And for the record, it doesn't take that much of an exceptional person to forgive when they've been treated so badly. It takes a slave.
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  Kingdom Melodies and Hidden Messages

  by inbyathread in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  there has been talk about wt imagery and the use of subtle hypnotism during meetings.. we had a co who very forcefully wanted the piano players axed and the canned music used for the singing.. has there been any studies done to find sub-harmonic messages hidden in the music?.

  paranoia and conspiracy artists may now address.

  thanks.

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  LOL! Gee, thanks for getting "We're Jehovah's Witnesses" stuck in my head today.
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  Is there a God that CARES ?

  by JH in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was born with believeing parents, so automatically, i assumed that there was a god because my parents told me so.. when i was young, i prayed before going to bed and said thank-you for all that i had.. later in life, i realized that what i had came from my parents, not necessarily god.. today, i still believe in god, but i wonder if he cares.. there is something worse than no god.

  it's a god that doesn't care and doesn't answer prayers.. when you look at the world as a whole, and see all the suffereing and injustice, you don't ask yourself if there is a god, you just wonder if he cares.. .

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  I think bikerchic is on to something. One might better ask why they seem to need a god who cares? (I note interestingly that you refer to God as a "that" rather than a "whom".)