after having read crisis of conscience and reading many posts and posting a few topics myself asking why the anger as i didn't understand.
i feel a sense of sadness for so many that have been so cruelly treated because of manmade dogma about shunning.
as a youth i was taught that the society encompased the true love that jesus taught and now i see how men in power have mutated that love into selfish power.
May God have mercy on them for mistreating people who genuinly had or have a love for God and his mercy and in some cases have ripped God from their lives and hearts as well as Mothers, Fathers, Children and so forth.
I personally would hope that he would have no such mercy for that entity having so severely misguided and damaged so very many.
Understanding the anger and bitterness... yes... welcome.
the bible tells us to transform our personality so that we become better people and pleasant.
so, as jw, we were all supposed to do that.. it's funny, but most jw's i know, also transformed their personality into something more hateful.. maybe they stopped doing bad things that were apparent, but they also started doing hateful things that they didn't do before such as shun people or ignore their own brothers and sisters who don't see exactly eye to eye with the org.
as well as divide families, which they didn't do before becoming jw's.. i rather their old personality, before they became jw's.. .
I'd rather be friends with someone who has loads of premarital sex than someone who'll leave me for dead for smoking a cigarette or sharing gifts on Dec. 25thCrystal clear. Made me laugh. Morning Daystar!
So, you'll be my friend? LOL!
Good morning! It's good to see you're taking a break from "GO! GO! GO!"
ok...please bare with me; i'm trying to get my thought out through a headache...lol.
what kind of chance do you think you have with god?...meaning that if the 'meekest man' on earth pissed god off, (and i still don't really know why) so that god punished him with death before they entered the 'promised land', something that moses waited over 40 years for, what chance do you think you have?.
i mean think of it....here's moses living his whole life around god (closer than anyone today) and god punished him...(btw...who can tell me what horrible crime he did anyway?).
I think Satanus may be on to something there... LOL!
the bible tells us to transform our personality so that we become better people and pleasant.
so, as jw, we were all supposed to do that.. it's funny, but most jw's i know, also transformed their personality into something more hateful.. maybe they stopped doing bad things that were apparent, but they also started doing hateful things that they didn't do before such as shun people or ignore their own brothers and sisters who don't see exactly eye to eye with the org.
as well as divide families, which they didn't do before becoming jw's.. i rather their old personality, before they became jw's.. .
I'd rather be friends with someone who has loads of premarital sex than someone who'll leave me for dead for smoking a cigarette or sharing gifts on Dec. 25th.
only that i have seen it 4 times!--------------check out the trailer at whatisthesecret.tv/.
my second choice is steven simon's (the guy who did "what dreams my come") movie about neale walsh .
"conversations with god" it is in the theaters now.. .
Case in point is a small child, an innocent wide-eyed child who sees the world through only positive eyes. And yet if the ultimate evil were to touch that child, and that child were to be assaulted, either physically or sexually, how did that child "create" that scenario?
Forgive me, but to my somewhat ignorant ears, this places a great deal of blame and/or responsibility on a child who had no concept of sex, much less that level of violence.
This sort of thing is precisely why I have such a problem with the concept of Karma so popular in the west today. I've had discussions with believers on this sort of thing.
I can imagine they would say that such a child must be paying off Karma from a previous life, that they must have lived, perhaps, as an abuser themselves in a previous life. I find this to be utter horse$h1t.
i am currently an agnostic, i am suffering from depression because i cant seem to know or realize if this "jehovah's witness religion" is really true..i mean what is so true about it.
im only 17 years old and i feel that i need to find my religion.
right now im currently dating a wiccan.
Let me begin by saying I have absolutely nothing against Wicca. However, just like Witnesses, many Wiccans just can't seem to research the roots of their own religion.
First of all, Wicca is by no means an old religion. It's been around only for about 50 years. A man named Gerald Gardner is credited with having popularlized the movement. You will find information about this man here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Gardner.
Gerald Gardner was an initiate into the OTO, Ordo Templi Orientis, Aleister Crowley's pseudo-masonic lodge - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordo_Templi_Orientis. He also claimed to have been initiated into a traditional sect of European witchcraft.
Wicca is a relatively new religion which revives and popularizes pagan practices. This doesn't detract from its validity as a path, however.
To say Wicca is an old religion is like saying that the WBTS is the same as the early church, that the Jehovah's Witnesses religion is the oldest religion on earth.
Witchcraft in general is ancient, Wicca is not.
You should also look into other "versions" of Wicca such as Dianic Witchcraft (or Wicca), Alexandrian Witchcraft (or Wicca), and British Traditional Witchcraft (or Wicca).
This might give you a good start, esp. since most Wiccans I've met have never heard about any of this, sadly, or simply refuse to hear it, they want to believe so badly that they're part of this oh so ancient religion.
As a sidenote, the popular "Wiccan rede" which is "An' it harm none, do what thou wilt" borrowed directly from Crowley's Thelema, "Do what thou Wilt shall be the whole of the Law, Love is the Law, Love under Will."
You can find more about Thelema and Witchcraft here - http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Main_Page. Do a search on Wicca there and you will find much more information.
Be aware that many, many Wiccans demonize ceremonial magicians, thelema and Crowley, much as WBTS demonizes just about everything. Which I always find funny considering the modern origins. Don't let anyone else tell you what to think or believe. Do your own research and practice and it can be quite powerful.
ok, i'm writing this thru tears as i just found out in the last 5 minutes.
my dad died in august, and they had been together just 1 or 2 weeks over 70 years married!
i didn't expect her to last without him, and visa versa.. i just tried to call my sister, and no answer there.
OMG! I'm so sorry brenda.
i think this has been discussed before.
if anyone could provide some links that would be great.. i tried the "google" search and didn't come up with anything.
i am terrible at doing searches.. thank you,.
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LOL! I'm glad someone got the joke!
i'm sure this question has been asked before .
i've come a long way in my thinking.
a very long way!
It never occurred to me consciously. I don't know how I thought I was going to keep things hidden in perpetuity. I knew the things I was doing were wrong according to the teachings, but man did they feel so right.
I guess I thought it was just going to be a phase of my life. I figured I would eventually meet an attractive Witness girl and fall in love and all would be right with the world. I'm sure now that it wouldn't have been, but that's what I thought at the time.
Thank the gods I got busted!
i think this has been discussed before.
if anyone could provide some links that would be great.. i tried the "google" search and didn't come up with anything.
i am terrible at doing searches.. thank you,.
Hey Dansk, that's pretty interesting. What's the source?
