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chasson
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ELDER SENT TO PRISON
by Jesika ingot this emailed to me from bill bowen today i didn't see it posted anywhere:.
bbci.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/england/newsid_2123000/2123546.stm .
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Was Russell a freemason and an adventist?
by wholewheat inwas russell a freemason and was he a member of the adventist church?
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chasson
Again and again, ad nauseum...
http://www.tjrecherches.org/freemason1.htm
http://www.tjrecherches.org/freemason2.htm
http://www.gargouille.info/Pyramide/debuga.htm
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Charles
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JW's admit lying in France
by Aaac inthis is what i found at.
http://groups.msn.com/jehovahswitnessesontheweb/jwsinthenews.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&id_message=7365&lastmodified=4675377379266957167.
here more news from france.
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chasson
Well we know this case since summer of last years.
We have contacted the french's administration at this time. I don't know now what the french's administration want to do.
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Charles
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Leukemia without blood.
by chasson ini have found this links on the internet.. even some "noblood" 's doctors has said that it is very difficult without blood's transfusion:.
http://www.usctransfusionfree.org/cs-transfusionfreeleukemiatreatment.html.
the treatment of leukemia may be one of the only exceptions to the general rule at usc that all patients can be cared for bloodlessly.
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chasson
I have found this links on the internet.
Even some "noblood" 's doctors has said that it is very difficult without blood's transfusion:
http://www.usctransfusionfree.org/cs-transfusionfreeleukemiatreatment.html
The treatment of leukemia may be one of the only exceptions to the general rule at USC that all patients can be cared for bloodlessly. The effects of chemotherapy on the bone marrow are such that blood counts almost always plummet, requiring the use of blood products to keep the patient alive.
Although little can be done for leukemia patients who cannot or will not accept blood transfusions, says Alexandra M. Levine, M.D., professor and chief of hematology and medical director of the USC/Norris Cancer Hospital, at USC these patients are allowed to make a choice. And that choice is respected.
"Our view is that if a person for religious or other reasons will not take blood transfusions, and still understands the risk of chemotherapy, then we will be happy to help them," says Levine. "Some have survived and some have not. But they have the choice here."
In addition, scientists are continuing to look into ways to turn even this one exception around, to be able to treat leukemia bloodlessly. And they've begun to find their way, least in the treatment of one condition called acute promyelocytic leukemia (APL).
"There is a drug called all-transretinoic acid that often can treat APL without the need for a transfusion," notes Dan Douer, M.D., director of the Bone Marrow Transplant Program at the USC/Norris Comprehensive Cancer Center. "We treated a Jehovah's Witness patient with APL using an experimental intravenous form of this medication, and she entered into a complete remission for three years before relapsing."
Douer then treated the patient with another experimental drug called arsenic trioxide. Again the patient went into remission -- without the need for blood products. "This is a revolution in the treatment of leukemia, because both drugs are not chemotherapy agents," Douer says. "You can't treat leukemia without blood products, but APL is one form of cancer that responds to this medication."
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Charles
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Secret WTS Social Agenda
by spaz inthis is a both a departure from the conventional paleo-hellenic concepts of logic to a primitive yet equally tenable principle of,'actions speaking louder than words', and a synopsis.. the wts is but one of many groups which are devoted to the disintergration of the traditional or biblical family structure, via nefarious means, as part of a greater plan that envisions a two-class new world order resembling feudalism.. .
the philosophic means to achieve this state is non-biblical.
the wts repudiates the christian principle of "loving your neighbour as yourself " by adopting an altruistic approach which demands to 'love your neighbour above yourself ".
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chasson
hey spaz,
Could you be more precise ? I think that you will start another conspiracy's theory the next post you will write ?
Don't you ?
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Charles
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Top STUPID criticisms of the WTS
by JanH inthere are certainly enough valid criticisms of the wts and the jw religion, but a significant number of often-repeated criticisms of the religion are, imnsho, just ludicruous and serves to take attention away from the real issues.
significant problems with the wts includes, but are not limited to, the shunning policy, the blood issue and of course the corporate policy of hiding child molestors.. here is a list of criticisms of the wts that i find particularly annoying to see:.
russell was a freemason (or, even worse, the wts is part of some other large-scale conspiracy like the illuminati).
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chasson
Good thread, thanks Jan.
On freemasonry, i could linked the use of "cross and crown" to the Quaker "William Penn" one of the historic's founder of Pennsylvania who has the same meaning of this symbol as Russell. So Xavier Martin Dupont has shown us that this symbol is a christian's symbol (catholic, presbytarian, adventist) and now it could be possible to link this symbol to the Quaker William Penn with his book "no cross, no crown".
On brainwashing: i prefer the term "personnality's control" which is softer than "brainwashing" and explain all the stuff that we can find in the Watchtower.
On cult: JW are cult in the sociological's meaning (Weber and Troeltch's theory) as the mormon, the adventist for the modern definition of cult, this is clearly more difficult to apply to them. The french's commission (MILS) has used this definition regarding JW:
"religious community with some cult's pratics" ( blood, disfellowship for example). There are not classified in the coercitive cult's group.
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Charles
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Aid to Bible understanding p667-672
by badboy in.
says `some scholars believe nimrod's death was commemorated by the annual`weeping for tammuz'.. .
what evidence does the wt had for saying this?
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chasson
Alexander Hislop, i suppose.
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Charles
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News from Calgary
by larc inthe trial to decide whether the father can continue to allow his ill jw daughter to have blood transfusions is in progress.
four people are testifying in the father's defense.
jim penton, sam muramoto, chris christonson, and greg stafford.
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chasson
Hi Gary,
I have translated in french your story:
http://www.chez.com/tjrecherches/busselman.htm
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Charles
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What happened in France?
by ignored_one injust wondered about this.
what happened in france 2 or 3 years ago that led to that campaign they had?
was it the tax issue, something else or a bit of both?.
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chasson
Well, well.
To make simple.
There were in 1996 a work's accident in the french's bethel so the french's social security (URSAFF) found at this time they don't pay the social security's tax. This is illegal. The french's branch was obliged to pay 10,3 millions of francs (1.5 millions of dollars)
After that the french's IRS has made a control. They found that the french's JW don't declare the benefits of their interest. They were obliged to pay 7,3 millions of francs (1 millions of dollars)
We have by this two incident the clear proof that the french's JW organisation fraud.
Now for the last and biggest problem resulting from the control of the french's IRS, i have no clear opinion on it. It seems that it is the law, but law is dangerous for all the others association in France and i hope sometimes that JW's will win the case, even if they will said after that Jehovah protect them.
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Charles
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questions on early period (Russell &Co)
by greven ini am currently doing some research on the early days and struck a few obstacles for which i need some help from anybody.. 1)russell predicted several times the "rapture of the saints".
this meant a visible return of those saints and that russell & co would rise to heaven.
when they failed to return visibly it was concluded that it did happen but invisible.
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chasson
if I'm correct was the banker through whom the Rothschild-created B'nai B'rith channeled funds for the corporate Watchtower Society to come into existence for a zionist cause.
Are you sure that it is pick up from the history of the third national bank or from springmeier or David Icke ?
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Charles