The bible does not say
Which is true of most of what they come up with...just don't call them on it!
tsof
folks this may have been posted, another thing to add to the "hummm, is this gods organization list?".
the may 1, 2007 question from readers brings new light to the subject of when was the year the call for the anointed ended?.
1935. new light alert -------the bible does not say ( this could have raised some issue especially in lieu of the age of new gov body members added last year or so).
The bible does not say
Which is true of most of what they come up with...just don't call them on it!
tsof
about 2 months ago, i had a 7:00 p.m. listing apointment meeting, about 20 miles from my home...i almost called to cancel and i should have......but i didn't.
i had the worst case of indigestion in my life.......during the meeting my stomack make so much noice....it was truly embarrassing.....something was truly wrong down there.. on the way back, 5 miles from my home it happen........ my body said we are getting rid of this stuff right now!!
!......my brain said we can't do that here.. we need a the bathroom now.....just then the traffic slowed........to 15 mph.. if i could have pulled of the road at that minute and "gone" i would have......but i was in the far right hand lane of a 3 lane highway, bumper to bumper.. i was sure i was going crap my pants.........i was screaming.......and praying to every god i know and some i didn't.. just then the traffic opened up.............i got off the highway...........i was 10 blocks from my home.. i happened to get behind some old lady driving 5 mph.........."haaaaaaaa... shhhhhiiiiiiiiittttttt.... i cursed, i screamed and i laid on the horn.........i finally passed her going about 60 mph.......and ran two stop signs......parked in my garage.........ran to the elevator.......i almost "lost it" waiting for it......... ran down the hall.......hit the door...........i was screaming the whole way...............i almost made it too................i was the biggest mess i ever had to clean up in my life....almost yaked twice.. the moral of the story is this..........sometimes things are not always what they seem......that people in "road rage" are not always some insane crack heads........sometimes they are nice middle aged business men, who can't eat sourkraut and beer together........or they might be some young man trying to get his poor wife to the hospital..............so be kind to the crazies.
That people in "Road Rage" are not always some insane crack heads........sometimes they are nice middle aged business men, who can't eat sourkraut and beer together
Agreed, from someone who's been there.
tsof
wt child abuse www.silentlambs.org.
"children, be obedient to your parents".
they soon understand that they are there to listen and to learn.prov.
Funny, my Mom wanted to take my daughter to the meeting today because the article was for children! I wonder if since children should obey their parents, and I tell mine not to follow the WT, then they have to obey that as well...right?
if you're on the do not call list and you live in the us, or if you want to join it so you can be left alone, i have good news: at the last meeting, the congregation was informed that from now on, "dncs are supposed to be checked on by telephone, not at the door by publishers.
do not call to update the records.
a group of brothers will be assigned to check on these by telephone.".
It would be great if people knew that saying "Do Not Call" means that they won't see JWs again. Personally though I see the phone as almost as bad, though it does give another layer of persoanl privacy for JWs to get through. People can make their numbers unlisted. Soon the government may need to do for JWs what was done for telemarketers!
right now, the wt is publishing their "very soon" series of the awake!.
soon - an end to suffering.
the articles are the typical "why does god permit suffering", followed by the issue of universal soverignty, the fall of adam and eve and a concluding "very soon now god's kingdom will bring an end to worldly governments.".
When you hear dubs in service use the 3,500 year old Psalm: "And just a little while longer and the wicked one will be no more."
One MAIN reason why I stopped. That is SOOOOOOOOOOO stupid.
tsof
i didn't see this posted by any one else soooooo ......... http://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/982.
they're cashin in the real estate for mo money, mo money, mo money.. moo who wishes he had mo..
Boy. I'd like to think that this is more evidence of their demise. But...that may be a little too much to ask for.
tsof
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/129473/1.ashx.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/129553/1.ashx.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/129647/1.ashx.
the most damaged ones are those with fanatical, over-zealous parents.
I have seen nothing to refute this. I had a girlfriend once whose Mom allowed her to do "worldly" things like extracurricular activities in school, and she was just not as fanatic as I was. It actually made for tension in our relationship. As an elder too I saw people who were less devout. Their children had an easier time of it. Of course many times their children leave or go inactive. And that often leaves those parents dissappointed. This is a destructive cult for all involved.
tsof
for the first time in a year i set foot on a kh.
the memorial to me is still somewhat sacred so i decided to attend.
i thought i would feel different, in the sense that maybe i would miss meetings, but i was wrong.
This year it was apparently an entirely new outline. I had never heard this Memorial discourse before.
The talk was slanted heavily toward JW's themselves. IOW Preaching to the choir. An interested person off the street would not have been able to follow the leaps in reasoning as the speaker jumped from the "Little Flock" of the Lucan account to the "144,000" of Revelation and from the "Great Multitude" of Revelation back to the "Other Sheep" of the Johannine gospel with no explanation whatsoever.
This may be their response to us. I hope somebody posts the new outline. I can't do it anymore....
tsof
mine would have to be "dark days are here!
men live in fear!....
" followed by the annoying change to a happy beat before the chorus "but the bible gives us a reason for cheer.." .
Oh its there! I wish that I could get these songs out of my head. I guess with time....
tsof
***Ssbsong125"JehovahIsonMySide"***
I know that in this crucial hour
My faith will yet be tested.
Around me swarms the Devil’s crowd
Like bees that were molested.
But I can ever beat them off
Beneath divine protection.
On those who love to bear his name,
God sets his deep affection.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/129473/1.ashx.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/129553/1.ashx.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/129647/1.ashx.
Well folks, I have taken some time off to live life. Losing weight (36 pounds so far this year), talking to women again, negotiating an amicable divorce, enjoying my job and teaching my daughter has kept me occupied. Plus, I needed a little time off from those feelings that have been stirred up by writing out my story.
It has been nice to see other write up their stories as well. Sharing these feelings while painful at times I believe heals us and others. So here is my next installment. For those interested links to the previous segments are listed at the bottom of this post in chronological order.
A "Theocratic Career" Begins
One side effect of not having diversions, siblings (I was an only child till I was twelve) or friends it that one gets a lot of time to think. As a result I was always bothered by this religion. There were inconsistencies. But I either couldn't put my finger on them due to lack of information and guidance, or I was afraid. After all this religion was all that I'd ever known. Therefore, though I was a publisher, had been used for things in the congregation (I gave the #2 talk at the circuit assembly twice, once at age six and again at nine) I shied away from baptism. One of the Congregation Committee members would regularly confront me on this. He would say: "Isaac, can I ask you a stupid question? What prevents you from getting baptized?" Now what could I say? I didn't even really understand the nature of my apprehensions, much less how to verbalize it. I was ten for God’s sake! Besides what would he and my parents have thought? So I would just lower my head, say "I don't know" and wonder what to do. Finally I decided "What the heck, let me get baptized." And so it was that on May 28, 1978 at 11 1/2 years of age I was baptized at the Manhattan Assembly Hall in Harlem. Strikingly what I remember most from the baptism talk was how non-descript and boring it was. In fact I have always felt that many WT speakers, especially GB members were boring. This feeling would lead to my becoming a very lively public speaker who is STILL getting calls to give public talks despite being inactive! But I digress....Here I was, I was a baptized brother. That summer I did something that I would repeat every year all the way through high school. I pioneered in the summer. I was so thrilled. At that time it was called vacation pioneering as WT delighted in seeing people use their vacation to go out in service. Crazy as I think back on it. But then, I was thrilled to be doing it. And being that I was the only brother out, I was given Kingdom Hall keys and told to take the weekday groups out! I was in charge! Wow. Of course those poor sisters had to deal with an eleven year old bossing them around. One in particular couldn't stand it. She gave me hell. The elders told me not to let her "look down on my youth."
One very important blessing, and I do mean blessing that I got from pioneering was that I could get out of the house!!! (For those who don’t know the reasons for why I would want to get out see the “My Journey” posts in the Personal Experiences section on JWD.) I had found a way to use the system finally to MY advantage. (This skill of using the WT rules for my benefit would serve me time and time again over the years.) By doing this I was able to escape the dysfunctional environment that was my home life. And I was able to get the approval, accreditation and sense of belonging from others that I sorely needed.
Now once the "friends" could talk to me without my Mom around they wanted to know so much, particularly how I was coping with home. I quickly began to realize that I was not alone in feeling that something was wrong with my home life. I had people to talk with. My Mom HATED this. These friends now began to harass her, asking her to let me out and let them take me places. She was torn. On the one hand I was doing "Jehovah's" work. I was associating with "His" people. On the other hand she was losing control. I remember one elder, the same one that persuaded me to get baptized, getting on his knees at the Hall, begging her to let me go on some outing. Her answer was a resolute No! Service Yes, but no movies, gatherings or social activities. But I knew now that my Mom had serious problems, that people could like me and that it would only be a matter of time before I could be on my own and do what I wanted. That realization quite literally saved me from destruction.
tsof
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/129473/1.ashx
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/129553/1.ashx
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/129647/1.ashx