Posts by truthsetsonefree

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How long does reinstatement take?!? Question for a elder or someone thats been in this situation

by N-kiki in

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truthsetsonefree

I've seen many things. But the unwritten encouragement given is to wait at least one year. The congo one is in gets the details if too far away from the disfellowshipping congo to facilitate a hearing. It then conveys those details along with it's opinion to the original congo. The original one makes the final decision. They have the case notes and generally do NOT forward those notes to the new congo. Elders are given training at KM school and extension classes at CA time as to how to proceed on specific issues that may have recently burned elders in the circuit or that may come from the branch office. CO's are rarely contacted unless they happen to be visiting or the case is unusual. They can go off of a first letter but many times don't as they want to be sure that you are "repentant".

Isaac

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Did Russell waste his millions starting the Watchtower?

by Witness 007 in

russell was to inherit a clothing store franchise....he could have been as big as k-mart today!

instead he created an organisation known around the world as "the watchtower society" which has enslaved 7 million people with it's rules and lies.

this organisation owns half of new york and millions of dollars worth of properties, so was it a good or bad investment?

truthsetsonefree

But what a waste of money. Starting a bogus religion when it could have gone to actually helping mankind.

Isaac

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"Gift" Of Singleness?

by WTWizard in

this has to be the biggest piece of s*** i have heard of within the religion.

the last i know, they called marriage a "gift" from god, itself stupid.

if you are not married, you are single--and they are calling that a "gift" too?

truthsetsonefree

Well it was Jesus who called it a "gift". Of course the Bible doesn't account for much in terms of consistency. I'd say singleness the way the Bible teaches it is no gift. Why be alone as one gets older? A good partner with whom one can share mutual love and respect, there is nothing better. Of course finding that one is the challenge. And perhaps the real gift when found.

Isaac

(of the still searching class)

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We Don't Want to Know Why You're Leaving

by passwordprotected in

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our exit from the watch tower society was fairly speedy.

within about 3 months, we'd ceased attending meetings and lost all of our friends (apart from hobo ken and his wife).. what was shocking - and only confirmed that we were right to leave - was how our decision was met by our so-called friends.. we were leaving behind people whom we'd enjoyed friendship for over 20 years.

we were leaving behind friends who were closer to us than our own families were.

truthsetsonefree

Whenever I read stories like this I'm amazed. I went through this and it was so painful. Even knowing it was coming I still felt alone, like maybe it was something unique to me. Or something I did wrong or offensive. It seemed so unnatural. I had one friend, we were in each other's weddings, I was his best man. I can't help but wonder what he thinks when he looks at those pictures. I wrote all of my friends individually explaining what was happening. Some did respond but for the most part the silence was deafening.

Isaac

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New anointed rejected by the WT-society

by Kosonen in

new anointed rejected by the wt-society.

i listened through the lates download wt, june 15, 2009. www.jw.org there is an article: the faithful steward and its governing body.. this article makes it clear that new anointed will not be consulted in preparing spiritual food.

other sheep are also told in other words not to listen to the opinion of new anointed in the congregations.. .

truthsetsonefree

As undercover mentioned, they never consulted the majority of the "anointed". They don't even know who they are! And dubs have always accepted this. A "spirit directed organization" can be mystical about where they get ideas and no one really cares. Save for the few who see what you see, get sick of it, and leave.

Isaac

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How do you go from hatred of the WBTS to indifference to it.

by easyreader1970 in

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right now i am filled with burning hatred towards the wbts.

not just to what it has done to me and my family but to people all over the world.

i want to see nothing but the governing body exposed as the charlatans that they are and for all to see the great evil that is the wbts.

truthsetsonefree

I know I don't feel indifferent. I hope I never do because even in some small way I can help others avoid being victimized by this group. That being said, it would be easier to forget about them if I didn't have family trying to indoctrinate my daughter, or parents who think the world of this assinine religion. However that does not mean that being angry at WT is the main focus of my life. I have a wonderful career and am active in community affairs. I have great friends and a wonderful relationship with my kid.

The nice thing to remember is that it's okay to feel differently at different times. We don't need to buy into the WT philosophy that anger felt towards them indicates that we are bitter, unforgiving hatemongers. We are people with different makeups and experiences. And we have every right to feel what we feel. Now if it is impacting health and/or preventing one from being functional in one's life then changing how you feel may be in your best interest. Otherwise hey, a feeling isn't + or -. It just is.

Isaac

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Hello Friends

by lonestar63 in

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man am i glad to finally be able to register!!.

i've been a lurker here for several months, well the old forum is where my lurking began.. i am very lucky.

i was able to fade without being hunted down.

truthsetsonefree

Welcome lonestar. So much of what you wrote reminded me of my experiences.

Isaac

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Is JW Disfellowshipping Scriptural?

by minimus in

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the bible says to "remove the wicked man".

the scriptures teach that certain things are "works of the flesh".

some verses speak of "marking" or "taking special notice of" if a congregant is "disorderly".. where does the bible teach that a "sinner" should meet with 3 elders and they should hold a "judicial meeting to determine whether someone is repentant oe not"?

truthsetsonefree

When you look up disfellowship(ed) in the NWT it tells you to look up expelled which directs you to John 9:22 & 12:42

John 9: 22 His parents said these things because they were in fear of the Jews, for the Jews had already come to an agreement that, if anyone confessed him as Christ, he should get expelled from the synagogue.

12:42 All the same, many even of the rulers actually put faith in him, but because of the Pharisees they would not confess [him], in order not to be expelled from the synagogue; .....

Funny that they would refer to texts where this practice was used to oppose Christ. It just goes to show what a hypocritical and dishonest bunch the WT Society and FDS really are.

Isaac

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I'm Perfect, You're Doomed: Upcoming NY and RI readings

by kyriaabrahams in

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hey everybody!.

just wanted to let y'all know that i have three upcoming events where i'll be reading from "i'm perfect, you're doomed".

if you're in new york or providence, please come on by.

truthsetsonefree

I just finished it and found it helped me think through many of the issues I had. May see you at one of the readings.

Isaac

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I have alot to be thankful for

by purplesofa in

there was a time when i almost picked up that bookbag and bible, headed out the door for the kingdom hall, again, leaving my kids.. i was sure that going to the meetings, studying, field service, good association, was more pleasing to god than my relationship/responsiblity to my children.

none of them were going to be in the truth, so i hardened my heart and little by little, covered up the hurt i felt and kept up the facade.

by the time i got to my last child and only daughter that tried desperately to please me by going to meetings, studying, not saluting the flag a school, no holidays, birthdays, sneaking around to date, until then she never kept anything from me..........i realized i was losing all my children.

truthsetsonefree

I was a good mom, but distanced myself, afterall they were going to be destroyed someday.

That is a perspective I hadn't thought about but which is so true for JW's whose children don't take to the "truth". It truly great that you have moved past it. A relationship with one's children is the best thing one can have, IMO.

Isaac