Kids with seriouys psychological problems. Well I'm glad somebody said it. I mean come on, how many people go through being the butt of unkind and cruel treatmant and DON'T hurt anyone. Heck, most of us went through things like that being dubs. And most if not all of us are kind and loving people.
truthsetsonefree
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10 Years Later, The Real Story Behind Columbine
by leavingwt inthey weren't goths or loners.
most of what you've heard may be false...a decade after harris and klebold made columbine a synonym for rage, new information including several books that analyze the tragedy through diaries, e-mails, appointment books, videotape, police affidavits and interviews with witnesses, friends and survivors indicate that much of what the public has been told about the shootings is wrong.. in fact, the pair's suicidal attack was planned as a grand if badly implemented terrorist bombing that quickly devolved into a 49-minute shooting rampage when the bombs harris built fizzled.. "he was so bad at wiring those bombs, apparently they weren't even close to working," says dave cullen, author of columbine, a new account of the attack.. so whom did they hope to kill?.
everyone including friends.. what's left, after peeling away a decade of myths, is perhaps more comforting than the "good kids harassed into retaliation" narrative or perhaps not.. it's a portrait of harris and klebold as a sort of in cold blood criminal duo a deeply disturbed, suicidal pair who over more than a year psyched each other up for an oklahoma city-style terrorist bombing, an apolitical, over-the-top revenge fantasy against years of snubs, slights and cruelties, real and imagined.. along the way, they saved money from after-school jobs, took advanced placement classes, assembled a small arsenal and fooled everyone friends, parents, teachers, psychologists, cops and judges.. "these are not ordinary kids who were bullied into retaliation," psychologist peter langman writes in his new book, why kids kill: inside the minds of school shooters.
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Last weeks Watchtower study - only Jesus & 144k "inherit the earth" ??
by yadda yadda 2 in"how jesus' sayings promote happiness".
- watchtower study, april 12, 2009. .
9. why are the mild-tempered ones happy?
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Borgia, flickering is a good way to describe their teachings. For as much as I thought I knew, this one totally got past me. I mean the other sheep MUST inherit the earth. "We" were going to live there after all. To think anything else seems ludicrous. Further as mentioned they DID use Matt 25:34 with regard to the other sheep. It almost seems like they are so interested in writing stuff and getting it out the door they don't check things for consistency. I mean at least get the story straight. Everything is so ad hoc with them. Then they're stuck having to make this stuff work. It also seems that lately they've been swinging toward the conservative side again and explicitly mentioning things that for a long time were assumed. Like the marriage vow being subordinate to the dedication vow Flipper posted recently.
I also wonder what the "other sheep" NOT inheriting the earth has to do with "promoting happiness" as the title implies. Most of their audience are "other sheep".
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In Real Life, Do You Think People Like You, Enjoy Your Company?
by minimus inthe witnesses like to call us "disgruntled" and "unhappy" and "miserable" because we left the truth.
do you think others view us in this way?.
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It took me a while to realize that people outside the dubs really do enjoy my company, but Yes. I think this is because I listen well and make people feel comfortable being themselves.
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May 15th WT- " Wife's Dedication to Jehovah more Important than Marriage "
by flipper ini wanted to make just a thread for this statement of mind control as it was very blatant .
in the may 15th witness only wt under the article "husbands, imitate christ's love !
" it states, " if you are a christian husband, remember that your wife is also your christian sister.
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One thing that one realizes over time is that the WT is very good at this form of double-speak. Today they say "take care of your wife; she's very important". Tomorrow, they'll say "christian elders, are you taking care of God's flock as Jesus would?".
And at any time, they can refer back to any of those statements to fit the moment. They can never be wrong.
That about sums it up. Even though I'm divorced and my ex knows that so many of our problems can be traced to this mindset she continues on in this cult. The taking each other to the elders was a part of my life for almost thirty years, beginning with my Mom and ending with my ex-wife. As mentioned already, these unbalanced men many of whom don't like sex (gee what guy doesn't want sex?!) have no authority to be telling anyone anything about marriage.
Isaac Carmignani
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JW Compound in Mexico
by restrangled inyep, you read that right.
my sister-in-law and her new husband moved down not too long ago.
we just recently heard they had to leave....why?
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Ray talked about this in ISOCF. There's always somebody stealing or playing politics or beinmg generally self-righteous. Should be proof their new world doesn't work as well as they say it will.
Isaac
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press interview tomorrow, can DF be far behind?
by chickpea inmy youngest, now 15 yo,.
is a female to male .
transgender boy...... he has been active with .
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You're awesome supporting your son. This may not be of much comfort but I can tell you from experience that dubs don't always watch the media. I have been in the NY media, press conferences and all. And no dub ever picked up on it. I was flabergasted as I was expecting the old saw about not being involved in poilitics. I was an elder. But they are so busy they sometimes miss what's going on. here's to hoping that they do.
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spirit realm...when pigs fly...off a cliff..i so want to be smacked by a demon.....
by oompa inya.....back in the day...demonz were everywhere and no big deal....some were smart and some stupid...see:.
(luke 11:14) 14 later he was expelling a dumb demon.
it was like ..."oh, he has a demon in him......ya...got that...demon all the way...............gee you hoser, i let him marry my sister............no prob....she is a demon too...".
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Dumb demon...maybe he couldn't speak.
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Great, simple Watchtower quote to show their HYPOCRISY. Easy to use.
by nicolaou in"we cannot take part in any modern version of idolatry-be it worshipful gestures toward an image or symbol or the imputing of salvation to a person or an organization.
" the watchtower, 11/1/1990, p. 26. .
and from the very same month and year .
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Boy Nicoloau you got them.
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Dumbfounded by COC
by eyeslice inover the weekend, i read for the first time crisis of conscience.. whilst i was already familiar with much of the material on chronology, 1874, 1914, etc.
i was dumbfounded to learn how the governing body actually works and conducts itself.
i think that many of us who have been elders in the past can really relate to ray and the battle he faced.. i must admit, i thought it was just me, and the battles i have faced with local hard-line elders.
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You had some of the same reactions I did. I read it while an elder and it amazed me how the GB functioned pretty much like the elder body when it came to the personalities. I was more convinced than ever that the whole "spirit directed" thing was bogus. After all the GB was just like an elder body and we were guided sometimes by good sense, sometimes by procedures, and sometimes by politics. But never could some "active force" be felt (though I know that's subjective as some elders did swear they could feel holy spirit).
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New Here - Hi All
by findingme92 ini'm new to this forum and look forward to getting to know you guys.. just a short summary about me, i was raised a jw, baptized at 15, married at 25, moved a few states away, started fading away about a year and a half ago.
started doing some searching about some long-standing doubts and completely sure now that this isnt the truth.
being out is still new and very difficult, but i'm making strides every day.. as i said, i look forward to getting to know you all..
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Funny you guys and gals mention children. I made such a sudden exit because of my daughter as well. I was happy making problems from the inside. I'd get people to post talk outlines (including here when we were JWD) and talk to the media. I associated with "apostates" and posted here. But when my daughter turned ten and pressure was on the horizon to make her a publisher, when her meeting attendance along with her mother's was being called into question, when she started to read WT publications on her own, I decided in a hurry it was time to leave. The rest is history.