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2008 Annual Report on web

by Dogpatch in

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someone just sent me a link to the 2008 annual report.. haven't read it yet.

randy .

http://www.4shared.com/file/75568905/6c852737/2008_annual_report.html.

ThomasCovenant

Memorial partakers figures going back to 1935. Thanks to Nathan Natas

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/149142/1.ashx

Only another 382 partakers and we'll be back to 1969.

Thomas Covenant

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i don't know if i'm going off on a tangent but is there a link between minnesota and the colour purple.. i'm thinking prince and the minnesota vikings.. looked at wiki and can't see any link but i thought i'd try here.. thanks.

thomas covenant.

ThomasCovenant

Hi

I don't know if I'm going off on a tangent but is there a link between Minnesota and the colour purple.

I'm thinking Prince and the Minnesota Vikings.

Looked at wiki and can't see any link but I thought I'd try here.

Thanks

Thomas Covenant

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If you were told you had a terminal disease.............

by ThomasCovenant in

and you believed in an afterlife or resurrection (and the disease would be quite painfree).

then why in the world would this not be absolutely the best news you could receive?

as an atheist i believe that every life lost is one more in the long history of snuffed out lives and there is a certain sadness in that.. as a witness, christian, muslim etc then surely it follows that every human life finished is a cause for great celebration.

ThomasCovenant

and you believed in an afterlife or resurrection (and the disease would be quite painfree)

then why in the world would this not be absolutely the best news you could receive?

As an atheist I believe that every life lost is one more in the long history of snuffed out lives and there is a certain sadness in that.

As a Witness, Christian, Muslim etc then surely it follows that every human life finished is a cause for great celebration.

Yes there may be sadness that for a few years at best you won't be able to communicate with that one but compared to what the afterlife/resurrection brings it's a small sacrifice.

A local witness elder had his funeral here today. A much liked man. I mentioned his passing to someone the other day and they said the witnesses must be ecstatic at the news. Not.

Thanks

Thomas Covenant

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Simple: What's Your Opinion of Jehovah's Witnesses?

by minimus in

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well?

ThomasCovenant

Self Deluded

Deluded

Embarrassed

Ashamed

I also used to be one. And I was all of the above.

I struggle now not to despise them as I try not to hold each and everyone of them partly responsible for all the deaths and heartache ensuing from the no blood and no transplants policies.

Thomas Covenant

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Why are the Spanish speaking congregations apparently doing well in the US?

by ThomasCovenant in

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last time i looked at the annual society statistics it seemed obvious to me that the more 'developed' countries were recording stagnant or negative growth.. possibly a more educated and more affluent society together with freely available information via media and the internet can explain some of this.. why then are the latin american countries and particularly spanish speaking american's going for the watchtower.

from what little i know i wouldn't class these groups as 'backward' or third world.. any ideas?

is is just the ex catholic community?.

ThomasCovenant

Hi

Last time I looked at the annual Society statistics it seemed obvious to me that the more 'developed' countries were recording stagnant or negative growth.

Possibly a more educated and more affluent society together with freely available information via media and the internet can explain some of this.

Why then are the Latin American countries and particularly Spanish speaking American's going for the Watchtower.

From what little I know I wouldn't class these groups as 'backward' or Third World.

Any ideas? Is is just the ex Catholic community?

Surely Spanish speaking Americans have access to the internet and the news the same as everyone else?

Thanks

Thomas Covenant

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''The number of the remant will get smaller year by year'' ......WT quote.

by ThomasCovenant in

apologies if this has already been shown, but here's a quote from watchtower 1953 15th october page 636. filling the house with glory study article.

'the number of the spiritual remnant will get smaller year by year as jehovah removes some of them from this earthly quarry of preparation and places them as "living stones" in the heavenly temple.

but oh the throngs of hundreds of thousands of the choicest class of people out of all the nations that now crowd the house of jehovahs worship, and these being added to by the thousands from year to year!

ThomasCovenant

Hi

Apologies if this has already been shown, but here's a quote from Watchtower 1953 15th October page 636

Filling the House with Glory study article

'The number of the spiritual remnant will get smaller year by year as Jehovah removes some of them from this earthly quarry of preparation and places them as "living stones" in the heavenly temple. But oh the throngs of hundreds of thousands of the choicest class of people out of all the nations that now crowd the house of Jehovah’s worship, and these being added to by the thousands from year to year! What glory, what impressive weight, this gives to Jehovah’s house, a glory never lessening but ever increasing as time marches on to Armageddon! Truly all nations must now know that Jehovah has a house of worship and that it is teeming with worshipers. His worship is a reality that cannot be stamped out any more than men could stamp out his "spiritual house," his temple of "living stones.'

Thanks

Thomas Covenant

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MAIL ONLINE---2 JWS MURDER 13 INNOCENT PEOPLE!

by minimus in

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i just saw this.

can someone post the article of the jehovah's witness killers??

?

ThomasCovenant

Two twisted Jehovah's Witnesses have been arrested as suspected serial killers, accused of murdering 13 people during a nine-month killing spree in Russia.

Claiming to be on a mission from God, Vladimir Gurianov, 44, and Elvira Egorycheva 46, hacked, shot and bludgeoned their victims in a case that left even hardened Russian detectives shocked.

The pair were finally spotted in a supermarket in a suburb of the city and arrested. By then they were on nationwide search lists and their photographs had been widely circulated in the region.

When they were searched Egorycheva had a revolver, two axes, an electric-shock device and a rope in her belongings.

Another gun and a knife were found in Gurianov's jacket.

Gurianov - who locals said had 'mad eyes' - and Egorycheva first met at a Jehovah's Witnesses sect meeting 16 years ago.

When they were reunited late last year, Egorycheva allegedly told him she had a vision and they must travel to the Volga region to carry out God's wishes.

She said: "God wants us to go to Nizhniy Novgorod and cleanse the world of sinners".

A neighbour said: "They were very odd. He called her "mother" or "Princess Elena". She called him "my son, Prince Mikhail".

"Gurianov used to say they had a certain mission. No-one took them very seriously but then the killings began."

The first victim was a fortune teller Ludmila Kostina, 51, with whom they made an appointment after seeing her advert in a local papers.

A day after the first murder they went to another fortune-teller, Nina Mashtakova, 66, who they killed before stealing valuables.

One victim was killed around January 10, when Gurianov answered an advert advertising Pekingese puppies.

A 17-year-old boy, returning home, found Gurianov killing his mother, who only managed to scream: "Run, boy!"

Gurianov later boasted to detectives about one particularly brutal slaying.

He said: "I shot at the head of this woman, but she was still alive. I shot her a second time and she fell down, but just as I was digging a grave for her I realised she was still alive and just watching me. So you'll understand I had to stab her."

Also in January this year, Gurianov, a convicted rapist, and Egorycheva met a 17 year-old girl by the garage complex in the city's outskirts.

Police believe the couple stopped the girl, and Egorycheva told her: "Stop, sinner! I, Princess Elena, and my son Prince Mikhail, have been sent by God to punish you!"

Gurianov then allegedly raped the girl, killed her with a hammer and buried her next to the garage complex.

He later told investigators: "Mother explained to me that every woman killed or raped by me would become my wives in the afterlife."

They are also suspected of killing 18 year-old student Masha Maslennikova, missing since May, whose body has not been found, as well as Ludmila Kotelnikova, 45, and Elena Lomteva, 37, whose corpses were found near their holiday homes.

One detective said: "Apparently, they didn't care who became their next victim, whether it was a woman, a young girl or a child. Their only criterion was to carry out the killing in remote parts of the city where no one could help the victims."

Later police asked the pair why they killed innocent people.

Gurianov, clearly enjoying recounting his deeds, replied: "God told us to go and take the money. He said: 'Go there and take as much as you need.' So we did".

One shocked detective said: "Our hearts are bleeding.

"They seem to enjoy talking about the things they have done. They feel safe as well. What is prison to them? Even if they are sentenced to life, they'll live until old age.If ever there was a case for capital punishment, this is it.