Posts by dedpoet

I guess we all feel that way. You have more of an excuse than me - you
were brought up with this crap, whereas I swallowed it at the age of 40, more
than old enough to have more sense

I think the time is long overdue for a big bonfire and get rid of all the time-wasting lie-filled books in ex Mr C's attic.

Actually it's very cathartic to do that with watchtower literature. I burned all mine
about 6 years ago, and it was such a great feeling to see all those watchtowers
and books slowly turning to ashes. I wish I'd took a pic of it and sent it to my former
colleagues at the kh.

IF THEY WERE CELEBRATING BIRTHDAYS ETC INN RUSSELL'S DAY, DOESHAT MEAN,HE WAS AN APOSTATE?

Well, they were celebrating them for a good few years after Russell had died Badboy,
but CTR would definitely be an apostate nowadays in the org's eyes.

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Athiests you shall repent or else !!!!!!!!

by 5go in

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athiests.

i find your lack of faith disturbing !.

you don't know the power of the christianity.

dedpoet

Wow.That's much more persuasive than all the hundreds of words of Perry and Vinny.

Make that thousands of words.

And it's "or else" for me as well

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Another example of the jws lying about their history

by dedpoet in

according to the watchtower of may 1st 1989, the watchtower society made.

"significant changes" to its practices in 1917:.

watchtower 1989 1st may - babylon the great takes a fall.

dedpoet

According to the watchtower of May 1st 1989, the watchtower society made
"significant changes" to its practices in 1917:

Watchtower 1989 1st May - Babylon the Great Takes a Fall
It has its parallel in the fall of symbolic Babylon the Great, the world empire of false religion. In the early part of our 20th century prior to 1919, the Bible Students, as Jehovah’s Witnesses were then known, had to be released from a form of spiritual captivity to the ideas and practices of false religion. Although having rejected such false teachings as the Trinity and the immortal soul, they were still tainted by Babylonish practices. Many had developed a self-righteous attitude in character development. Some were exalting creatures, indulging in a personality cult that focused on Charles T. Russell, the first president of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society. Without any Biblical basis, they were observing birthdays and Christmas. The cross was still prominent in their thinking. Some even wore a cross-and-crown lapel emblem, while others sought the respectability accorded Christendom. Then, in 1917, shortly after the death of Russell, a significant change began to take place. In that year the Watch Tower Society published a commentary on Revelation under the title The Finished Mystery.
[...]
in relation to Jehovah’s Witnesses, Babylon the Great had fallen in 1919. They were free from Babylonish restraint!

They didn't change allthat quickly though:

What about the practices of Christendom that were being followed, was there a significant change in their practice.
Christmas was celebrated for a further 10 years
Birthdays were celebrated for a further 10 years
Pyramidology was taught for another 11 years
The Cross was taught for another 20 years
Christ’ second coming in 1874 was taught for another 13 years
The last days (starting from 1799) were still being taught for another 13 years
The answer is that their was absolutely no change, let alone “significant change”, after 1917 and the Watchtower continued teaching Christendom’s practices for at least a further 10 years and even 20 years with regard the Cross which is allegedly Christendom’s biggest symbol.

Obviously, all these practices were eventually discontinued, but the watchtower
article seems to me to imply that they were stopped almost immediately, while
the truth is some went on for years afterward, although they admit in the article
that there was no scriptural basis for any of them. Since, according to the org,
1917 was supposedly the year Babylon the Great fell and the watchtower was
released from spiritual captivity and no longer saw the need to join Christendom
in its false religious practices, they have to tweak their history to fit in with that
event.

They were certainly still celebrating Christmas in 1926, as this link to the bethel
Christmas party photograph shows:

http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/christmas.html

Notice how, whenever the watchtower refers to "old light", they revert to using
the third person plural, 1e "they" or "some", never "we". Perhaps because
these events are written about many years after they actually happened (though
not as many years as the org would have us believe), they hope that no one will
notice the discrepancy.

dedpoet

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Did You Ever Question The Talks At The Hall Or The Assemblies?

by The wanderer in

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did you ever question the talks at the hall or the assemblies?looking back at having spent years present at meetings and assemblies made me think back .

to the time when i both witnessed and delivered talks.

one of the defining moments of why .

dedpoet

Those demos really were pathetic weren't they?

The householder almost always cooperated, listened to the jw, and took the
literature. It wasn't much of a preparation for how it really was on the doors. I
used to present those items without any intention of following the advice in the
articles myself.

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Isn't God Awesome?

by Perry in

http://wonderofitall.com/

dedpoet

Next up:

Little Toe, then Sirona, littlepoppers and on from there in the order of post. Maybe this week, maybe next... but it will happen in detail.

This will not be good for you atheists.

Why Little Toe? Unless he's changed overnight, he is far from being an atheist.

This is why all atheists have silly foolish beliefs.

Do we now? Many thiests I have known believe that because a talking snake got a woman
to eat a piece of fruit, the whole of mankind became sinners. Personally, I can't see how
"belief" can get much sillier than that.

dedpoet

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Are you still close to any of your Witness friends, who are still active?

by passive suicide in

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after awhile i feel like they're lost........i don't even know what ta talk about.

i'm an equal opportunity judgemental a-hole.

weird.

dedpoet

No, and neither would I want to be, they all shun me nowadays.

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When a DFed anointed one get reinstated..............what happens ??????

by vitty in

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i have just found out that an appointed member of a congregation i know has been dfed for drinking, this person has had a problem for years but her daughter dobbed her in................anyway i was wondering what happens if she gets reinstated, will she still be one of the anointed or has she lost her crown.

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dedpoet

Hebrews 6: 4-6 says this

4 For it is impossible [to restore and bring again to repentance] those who have been once for all enlightened, who have consciously tasted the heavenly gift and have become sharers of the Holy Spirit,

5 And have felt how good the Word of God is and the mighty powers of the age and world to come,

6 If they then deviate from the faith and turn away from their allegiance--[it is impossible] to bring them back to repentance, for (because, while, as long as) they nail upon the cross the Son of God afresh [as far as they are concerned] and are holding [Him] up to contempt and shame and public disgrace.

So it would seem that if a member of the anointed falls away, then they can't come back as anointed.

Not that I believe the jws teaching on this anyway

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