i need some answers or advice from the experienced brothers/sisters regarding my stand.
i am too shy to go to the elders.
shall i continue and pursue my life and hopefully be part of the organization once again ??
Hi resthe, and welcome to the forum.
This site is mainly comprised of ex or inactive jws (I am disassociated),
and we don't believe that continuing to be a jw and continuing in the
"truth", whatever that is, are the same thing.
However, do stay with us, you will find that we are generally very welcoming
and friendly, despite most of us being what the watchtower would label as
apostates.
justitia themis began a topic 'disgusting comment re: education from tacoma 2007 district convention' regarding a talk on education.
i would like to hear it, can anyone tell me which day and time it was given?
the convention is in town this weekend (as well as last weekend and next weekend) and i need information on the talk.. i am going to visit my family next week and i want to try to talk to my niece about college.
I may be wrong, but I'm inclined to suspect that this was the speaker
at that particular dc trying to be clever. I really can't see the org
putting a comment like that in the outline as theytry to encourage
non jws to attend the convention.
.. it must not be forgotten that back in the early 1900's the society taught that world war i was the beginning of the great tribulation and when wwi ended--that was the "unless those days were cut short no flesh would be saved" and it was the "these are the ones that come out of the great tribulation" as recorded by the apostle john in his revelation.
when wwii started it was the great tribulation commencing again such that all of those jw's between the two world wars belonged to the great crowd.
in 1968 at the peace on earth international convention, the society changed its teaching and made the great tribulation a yet future event.
In 1968 at the Peace On Earth International Convention, the Society changed its teaching and made the Great Tribulation a yet future event. Which, frankly, negates the 1935 Great Crowd coming out of or from between the world wars of the Great Trib. They didn't change THAT teaching and few among the JW's realized the ramifications of making the Great Trib a future event thus nullifying the existence of the Great Crowd. Now that the Great Trib is a future event, the Great Crowd coming out of it also has to be a future event--Duh! So . . . there can't be a Great Crowd yet because they don't make a showing until after the Great Trib and therefore all Christians today have a heavenly hope.
Thanks for this Inkie. You are so right - very few jws do realise what
the wt teaching on the tribulation really means.
It's typical wts tactics though, making a subtle, barely-noticeable change
to a doctrine years after initially formulating it, and hoping that most of
those who were around when they originally thought it up are either dead
or too blinded by propaganda to notice the ramifications.
If the jws really studied their doctrines, I think the current 6.5 million
total would be significantly reduced once some of them realised what
nonsense they are actually putting their faith in.
yes its convention time again.
my kids who've been warming up to me more, have all the sudden stopped taking my calls.
cancelling plans with me because of " other plans".
(((((candi)))))
I am sorry to read that. It makes me happy that I have no jw relatives.
if there IS a god, no offense to believers here but i find him unworthy of worship in any form.
I don't believe in god myself, but I agree with you - if he does
exist, and is anything slightly resembling the watchtower
version, he isn't worth the time of day.
i heard on tv this morning that a few will protest at our assembly which will be held in quebec city friday, saturday and sunday.. i heard that someone who lost a family member due to blood policy will protest in front of where the assembly will be held..... i'll try to find a link to this story... .
First, he hopes that the media will talk about more than just the cleanliness of the Colisium once the congress is over. Secondly, he hopes that the governement will wake up to the dangers of these cults. It's ridiculous that in 2007, fanatic religions are able to let people die in the name of their religion, says Jonathan Lavoie, who left the organization at age 17.
I wish him well. The jws will scream "persecution" as usual,
but if what he is doing alerts others to the dangers of getting
caught up in a cult like the watchtower, then his efforts will
have been worthwhile.
on another thread someone posted about hearing a different set of baptismal questions than the ones they had at their baptism.
can someone elaborate on this?
i don't remember hearing anything about the questions changing and this really surprised me, though i don't know why!
Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with God’s spirit-directed organization?
I wonder how many of the 8 or 9 year olds that are being
blackmailed into getting dipped to keep the watchtower
membership numbers up really understand the kind of
commitment they are actually making?
I suspect many of them will live to regret making it.
i really am no longer one of jehovah's witnesses!.
did i getchya?
i bear witness to three: the father, the son, and the holy spirit.
I knew you weren't serious LL.
lest you forget.... .
this provides another chance to highlight the change.. .
When I was a jw, 1935 was definitely the year when the gathering
of the anointed ended, apart from replacements. Now, 72 years
later, they "don't know".
It's a wonder that these charlatans still have any followers at all
i find it interesting reading posts from ex-witnesses or those that are slipping away and yet the terminology is still brain-washed into us.
i mean, i've managed to stop using the terms myself.
sometimes i might catch myself using the term "the truth" or "brother" or "sister", but i quickly correct myself.. the fact is for me, as much as i agree with a lot of their values and beliefs, those people were not my "brothers and sisters" nor was the organization "the truth".
I haven't used any jw terminology for years, apart from posting on
boards like this one, and then I tend to use it in a sarcastic way. It's
certainly not part of my everyday speech anymore.
i noticed another thread on this site relaying a stupid e mail making the rounds of dubdom.. well i just got this one and i thought i would share.... powerful illustration.
after the prayer, the local elder slowly stood up, walked up to the.
platform and, before he gave his public talk, he briefly introduced a guest.
That story has been around for a few years. I heard it when I was in,
and had trouble swallowing it then.
Just another jw urban myth, not to be taken literally, though I bet
most of the jws who heard it believed it.
