petespal2002,
I see the situation developing where WT is going to fall.
Information available on the internet about them is what is going to do it.
When that happens it won't be a shock or a surprise to me.
over on beliefnet, a dub posted this:.
http://www.formulism.org/news.html.
its a resolution presented to the un to ban religion.
petespal2002,
I see the situation developing where WT is going to fall.
Information available on the internet about them is what is going to do it.
When that happens it won't be a shock or a surprise to me.
if the average congregation has about 83 publishers in the us, then the organization may be sinking into a crisis.. take that 83 and consider that half the congregations may have less.. take away '15 minute publishers' who don't attend.
take away completely fake publishers who rarely attend.
take away increasingly tired publishers who 'feel sick', are depressed, or just want to stay at home and watch tv.. .
Gary,
I was in Selma, Alabama in 1976 and they were still segregated there at that time.
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i know that nosferatu posted a link to this talk some months ago, but the link is no longer active.. i'm very curious about this "voice of strangers" warning - whatever it's a warning about please tell me!.
englishman.
Hi E-man
Here is a link to a discussion about the talk that was given last summer Called "the voice of strangers"
who are the governing body members?
can the average jw name even one or more members of that body?
i don't really know, but over the last ten to twelve years since i left the jw religion, i have a better idea - i think.
Jim,
Outstanding work.
Thanks so much
bbtt
how is this for deceptive writing.
in the feb 1 2004 watchtower under the title 'how can you satisfy your spiritual needs' the artice gives three examples of professional people who have become witnesses, a doctor, a lawyer and an architect.
all come complete with two pictures each.
When Hillary-Step said, "They have cunning to burn" He said it all!
many years after i was df'd, i found myself at the end of a shunning campaign led by a robotic jw neighbour.. the neighbour had moved in next door to me.
he'd even borrowed some tools of mine before he discovered that i was an ex.
at this point he began a serious "i'm ignoring you" strategy which i found utterly hilarious as he was the one who had chosen to move in next door to me.
What we didnt know the score about was the false prophecies, lies, lifetaking errors, cruelty and all these things that would eventually make us want to leave.
Brummie,
You said that perfectly.
I would like to add that I was very surprised at the lack of love because I was love bombed for years before I joined.
in a minimus moment, i find myself interested in knowing which buzz-words and phrases in jw publications stand out the most to you?
when i read wt literature, i constantly find myself astounded by how transparently cultish the language is.
in an earlier, unrelated thread, i said the following: .
the end is right around the corner
five minutes away
the first poster that i ever met was philo.. we'd traded a few stories via the site and i realised that we knew some of the same people down in portsmouth.. he was very cagey as to his real identity, but eventually we shared emails and he told me all about himself.
one day, i took hl down to portsmouth to see my daughter who lives there.
i'd mentioned it in a post, that i was going in that direction.
The first poster I met in real life that I had not known before is Gideon. Check his first post at the link below.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/48053/1.ashx
Gideon and his wife drove 160 miles to meet me and my wife. I have since had the privilege of being able to meet his whole family.
He is a fine man and I am proud to call him my friend. Gideon and his family are moving on with their lives.
Robert, If you are lurking out there, Hello and stay well. Drop in to see us anytime.
Chester
this is interesting, i found fred franz's and nathan knorr's social security numbers.
frederick w franz .
born: 12 sep 1893 .
I made a comment about The Governing Body and social security a couple of years ago.
The link is below
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/20536/254813/post.ashx#254813
Speaking about social security.....
I thought I would run a check to see if any of the Governing body had applied for it. What I found is quite interesting. Notice that Lloyd Barry did not apply for his until 1975.
NATHAN KNORR Request Information
SSN 131-38-8638 Residence: 11201 Brooklyn, Kings, NY
Born 23 Apr 1905 Last Benefit:
Died Jun 1977 Issued: NY (1963 And 1964
WILLIAM L BARRY Request Information
SSN 059-56-5008 Residence: 11201 Brooklyn, Kings, NY
Born 20 Dec 1916 Last Benefit:
Died 2 Jul 1999 Issued: NY (1975)
FREDERICK W FRANZ Request Information
SSN 080-42-6420 Residence: 11201 Brooklyn, Kings, NY
Born 12 Sep 1893 Last Benefit:
Died 22 Dec 1992 Issued: NY (1966)
KARL F KLEIN Request Information
SSN 065-38-0289 Residence: 11201 Brooklyn, Kings, NY
Born 25 Oct 1905 Last Benefit:
Died 3 Jan 2001 Issued: NY (1963)
The link for the social security site is listed below
? http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/vital/ssdi/main.htm
let's see if i can explain this a little better.
i actually went to meeting two weeks ago (husband is an inactive dub, and we went to oblige his family while we were home visiting on a school break) -- the brother giving the talk is brand new to the area.
he is from tennesse, although i'm not sure where.
I was at the District convention at the Pontiac Silver Dome in Michigan in June of 2000 when one of the speakers made the comment,"If you are happy with your life the way it is now, stay off the internet"
My wife was there but she says she can't remember hearing that.
Is there anyone on this board who was there that year? It is hard for me to believe that I was the only one who heard that statement.
My wife told a "friend" of hers what I said and her "friend" said she is happy with her life the way it is.