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  Fornication Vs Divorce

  by chezza in

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  2. friends

  hi all,.

  i was reading another post earlier about wether or not to let your children bf gf sleep over and brought something to mind that i have given a great deal of thought too.

  we all know very well the stand the witnesses take on no sex before marriage, and i wonder how many marriages have ended up in divorce because of this.. how many young ones rush into marriage without really considering the commitment they are taking simply because they want to have sex, i am not saying this is always the case but we all know how strong hormones can be, and given the standpoint on divorce in the organization i wonder if given the chance to have sex before marriage wether or not this would lesson the divorce rate which i might add before i left the dubs was rising even in the organization.

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  chezza

  Thanks everyone for your very interesting and varied comments :-)
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  Fornication Vs Divorce

  by chezza in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi all,.

  i was reading another post earlier about wether or not to let your children bf gf sleep over and brought something to mind that i have given a great deal of thought too.

  we all know very well the stand the witnesses take on no sex before marriage, and i wonder how many marriages have ended up in divorce because of this.. how many young ones rush into marriage without really considering the commitment they are taking simply because they want to have sex, i am not saying this is always the case but we all know how strong hormones can be, and given the standpoint on divorce in the organization i wonder if given the chance to have sex before marriage wether or not this would lesson the divorce rate which i might add before i left the dubs was rising even in the organization.

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  I understand what you are saying jerome about the kids not having lives, but i still feel that the problem of premarital sex affects not only the young ones but also the older ones who are remarrying and those that have waited to pass the bloom of youth that beck said, but, like anything it can abused and i also feel the more you deny someone from having something the more they want it or try to get it, we all know of the witnesses that lead double lives because they want to do the things others are,maybe if there wasnt a big deal of sex or not having sex the young ones would not be so determined to get it.
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  List Old Testament Bible-Legal Perversions

  by ashitaka in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  ok. i was just reading another thread about how lot screwed his daughters, and how this was excused..(thanks, farkel), and i got to thinking....... just how many sick things are in the ot that we just gloss over?

  forget all of the insane wars.....what about heady murder, sex with parents, etc, disgusting things that are unspeakable in today's society but was so common and lauded for 'god's people' in the bible.. ashi

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  One thing that really gets to me is when god killed the firstborn of everything, that is just murder in my opinion, and what was it for? to prove a point to pharoah, well thats just pride.
  Sorry if i offend by my post, but it really bothers me that we can excuse god killing people.
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  Fornication Vs Divorce

  by chezza in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi all,.

  i was reading another post earlier about wether or not to let your children bf gf sleep over and brought something to mind that i have given a great deal of thought too.

  we all know very well the stand the witnesses take on no sex before marriage, and i wonder how many marriages have ended up in divorce because of this.. how many young ones rush into marriage without really considering the commitment they are taking simply because they want to have sex, i am not saying this is always the case but we all know how strong hormones can be, and given the standpoint on divorce in the organization i wonder if given the chance to have sex before marriage wether or not this would lesson the divorce rate which i might add before i left the dubs was rising even in the organization.

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  chezza

  Hi all,
  I was reading another post earlier about wether or not to let your children bf gf sleep over and brought something to mind that i have given a great deal of thought too. We all know very well the stand the witnesses take on no sex before marriage, and i wonder how many marriages have ended up in divorce because of this.
  How many young ones rush into marriage without really considering the commitment they are taking simply because they want to have sex, i am not saying this is always the case but we all know how strong hormones can be, and given the standpoint on divorce in the organization i wonder if given the chance to have sex before marriage wether or not this would lesson the divorce rate which i might add before i left the dubs was rising even in the organization.
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  Ex JW Support Group - any suggestions?

  by Beck_Melbourne in

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  2. friends

  i just thought i'd put this to the multitude and invite your suggestions or some feedback, as i am thinking about forming a support group for ex jw people in my area.

  my motive is based on my own experience when exiting the borg...and how isolated and lonely i felt when i left.

  i was lucky enough to have one family member who had left the borg a few years before me.

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  Hi Beck,
  Do you need a secretary for this new group, count me in baby,i felt so alone when i left and still do very often, its hard making friends or even getting self confidence for doing normal things like getting a job, we were so isolated from "the world" that it is hard to learn how to even make friends let alone be comfortable living in a world we were taught to shun. Might i say at this point meeting you made a big difference in my life, knowing there was someone else who knew exactly how i was feeling, thank you so much for being there for me.
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  " Shay "

  by TheRecordCollector in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the following was emailed to me, i'm fowarding it to you.

  this will either make you cry, give you cold chills or leave you cold, but it puts life into perspective!

  at a fundraising dinner for a school that serves learning-disabled children, the father of one of the school's students delivered a speech that would never be forgotten by all who attended.

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  chezza

  That was beautiful.
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  New Screensavers by WTBTS!!

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hey folks.

  i came in to my computor to the sound of kingdom songs.

  coming from it and changing pictures with a question below the pictures.

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  chezza

  no pb
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  For those who've left - any regrets?

  by starfish422 in

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  2. friends

  i left almost nine years ago at age 18; my only real regret was that i was good friends with a young brother and i never said goodbye to him, or even let him know that i was planning to leave (had to leave my parents' home secretly while they were at the meeting one sunday; they had such a hold over me that i could never have stood up to them and told them beforehand).

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  i have no other regrets about leaving; i'm am now happily agnostic and so thankful that i found the strength to break free.. anyone have any similar regrets?

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  I regret the way i left, there was a lot of pain left behind, i regret the loss of a lot of very good friends, i, like mommy regret that someone who i admired alot died very tragically recently and i couldnt go and share my grief, most of all i regret the confusing feelings that i get about things to do with conscience.
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  New Screensavers by WTBTS!!

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hey folks.

  i came in to my computor to the sound of kingdom songs.

  coming from it and changing pictures with a question below the pictures.

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  sorry i cant i went and removed all of it from my computer the long way.
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  UN-Baptizmal Service

  by Beans in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello friends:.

  for all of you who have left the borg and want to truley reverse the curse we here at apostacon congregation along with our quotes membership are offering a new service "un-baptizmal service"!!!.

  yes,you and others will be swept away to the un-baptizmal pool in a first class fasion where you will receive your souvenir apostate towl.the un-dunking process will begin and after completion you will be officially an apostate!.

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  chezza

  I love it!