Posts by GoingGoingGone

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"Are Jehovah's Witnesses a sect or a cult?"

by Cognitive_Dissident in

the following is taken directly from the reasoning book, page 202, under the heading jehovah's witnesses.

parentheses are mine .

are jehovah's witnesses a sect or a cult?".

Why can't you just move on?

by atypical in

jw
friends

that's what my wife said to me the night before last.

i was making an observation about the way my family and other jws in my life are constantly trying to get me to go to a meeting or read an awake, but they never want to sit down and address the questions i have raised to them.

she then asked me why i can't just move on.

GoingGoingGone

Then what will happen I just don't know....

I am a fader, too, and married to an active JW. When I was first doubting openly, I asked him all the questions that bothered me, and that the WTS has no answers for. He had no answers, of course, but he was still kind and wanted to 'help' me find answers.

But once I told him that I didn't believe it anymore, and that I wasn't coming back because I had discovered things that convinced me that the WTS is wrong, all dialogue came to a screeching halt. I can't talk to him about anything. I'm labeled an apostate by my own husband, for simply asking questions. Actually, not for asking questions... for finding answers that are not on the WTS 'approved answer' list.

Some days, things around here are ok. Other days, my husband proclaims that we have no future together, or some other gem... It's a roller coaster of emotion and insecurity and despair. It sucks.

I don't know what I would have done without this site, honestly.

GGG

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jehovahs witnesses and cashing in retirement money early...

by kittyeatzjdubs in

when i was about 16 or 17, one of the elders in our congregation told my mom that he had it from ''special sources'' that the end was very near.

so he said that him and a lot of other dubs were cashing in their retirement early and using it to buy new houses, cars, and to go on vacation.

their reasoning was to spend the money now, since it would be useless when the new system arrived a few years later.. so the elder and his wife cashed in their retirement and used the profits to buy a new house and go on a cruise, which my mom and i also went on.

GoingGoingGone

I plan on moving to Honduras, Mexico or Guatemala.

I think that's a good idea. I know someone who moved to Mexico to retire, and they love it.

But don't you have to be a citizen to live there full time? And have some connections to the country to become a citizen?

GGG

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Why can't you just move on?

by atypical in

jw
friends

that's what my wife said to me the night before last.

i was making an observation about the way my family and other jws in my life are constantly trying to get me to go to a meeting or read an awake, but they never want to sit down and address the questions i have raised to them.

she then asked me why i can't just move on.

GoingGoingGone

I told her that I am the only one in our relationship who is completely willing to look at the facts, whether the facts agree with my stance or not. I am interested in truth, not convenience.

I love this line! I may have to borrow it! atypical, I completely understand. I wish it were possible to just move on, too, but I can't. You can't just leave the WTS. Because I'm fading, I feel bound by rules that I don't believe in; I'm unable to ask the questions I want to ask and read the things I want to read. I can't attend religious services anywhere else. And no one, who hasn't been in my shoes, understands why. They must think I'm exceptionally wierd.

In addition to that, I feel socially retarded - like, what do 'normal' people talk about, how do you make friends, etc... There is so much I don't know that I don't even know what the questions are! All I've ever known is a JW social life. Oh, joy.....

This site is great, and people do move on from here. It's sad to see them go, but when someone posts that they've moved 'past' this site, it's like another success story. But it's definately a process. Hang in there.

GGG

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What are your favorite aromas?

by Lady Lee in

jw
friends

there are certain aromas that i love.

some comfort me.

others create anticipation.

GoingGoingGone

Fire in the fireplace

Freshly cut grass

Rain in spring

Gardenias

Freshly baked bread

GGG

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Please help! Child custody

by Cindyrenee in

i am looking for the book the sociey gives to help witnesses with custody cases.

found one link, but could not get it to download.

thank you so very much.

GoingGoingGone

Welcome to the forum, Cindyrenee!

Keep on venting.... it really does help!

GGG

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Help. I need advice with my 12 year old daughter.

by nicolaou in

i got home from work yesterday and my wife tells me there is a letter from my daughter's school - this is it;.

can you imagine how proud and thrilled i was!!

but.... at the mere mention of it my daughter burst into tears.

GoingGoingGone

Congratulations to you and your daughter!

Scully's advice is great. My son was in the exact same situation (he was a little younger, though). He was recommended for the gifted program, which meant leaving his school and joining a class where he knew no one. My son loved his class, had tons of friends, and hates change. He didn't want to join the program at all.

I told him that I thought he should and that he would make new friends. He wasn't convinced. So I told him that if he hated it, he could return to his old school the following year... he still wasn't convinced..... So we agreed that he would try it out for a half year, and if he didn't love it by then, he could quit.

It took him all of a week to love the class. He was mentally challenged, but what he loved the most was being surrounded by other kids who were as smart as he was.... I remember him coming home one day, and telling me that he told a joke, and everyone 'got it'... Normally, he would have to explain what he meant because it would go right over the other kids' heads. He made friends that first year that he still has, and he says now that he's soooo glad I made him join.

Good luck with whatever you decide, and I'm sure your daughter will do great wherever she is!

GGG

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Quotes to be guest on Drew Marshall Radio show Sat Feb 11 @ 4pm

by Quotes in

i confirmed with drew this afternoon, i will be his guest this saturday, february 11 @ 4pm (eastern time).

looks like it will be mostly the "call in" portion of the show.

from drew's web site: http://www.drewmarshall.ca/weeklyupdate.html: .

GoingGoingGone

Then I told her that the jw's idea of shunning was for life. Unless one grovels and asks to be reinstated and that takes months and maybe a year and never looked upon the same. That really startled her .

I was speaking to a family friend once (not a JW), and she knew someone who had been DF'd as a teenager for fornication. Well, the 'fornicators' ended up getting married, and yet they weren't accepted back into the fold. She was shocked that once the 'sin' ended, the 'punishment' continued.

GGG

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Infant Baptism, alive and well in JW land.

by Gill in

the april 1st watchtower has an interesting section on : 'meeting the requirements for christian baptism.'.

paragraph 9:.

in the case of youths, come develop a measure of spirituality at a relatively tender age, while others take longer.

GoingGoingGone

That's very true that Catholics don't practice shunning, but they did, in many years gone by kill those who would not convert.

Gill - You're right. And I agree. It's all the same crap.

GGG

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Infant Baptism, alive and well in JW land.

by Gill in

the april 1st watchtower has an interesting section on : 'meeting the requirements for christian baptism.'.

paragraph 9:.

in the case of youths, come develop a measure of spirituality at a relatively tender age, while others take longer.

GoingGoingGone

And they're so different from the Catholic Church - Really?

Yup, they're different.... The Catholic Church will not shun you and tell all it's members to ignore you, if you decide that you do not want to be Catholic anymore.

The JWs baptize you as young as they can, and then destroy your life after you've done what they told you to do. You can never get out unscathed.

GGG