aaaaaagggghhhhh!!!
thats how i feel at the mo!!!
why is it that no matter how hard you try life still sh**s on you!!!!!
I am scared of finding something I can't live up to!!!
Tez, on the contrary, I think what you'll find that NO man (not even a JW man) can live up to JW standards. I think that people who are honest with themselves will realize that fact and accept it. The only thing that I think is required is that we try to be better than we once were. Keyword: TRY. What makes one man more deserving than another? Nothing. We all fall short.
aaaaaagggghhhhh!!!
thats how i feel at the mo!!!
why is it that no matter how hard you try life still sh**s on you!!!!!
Hi Tez,
I've missed you. It's good to see you posting again, but sad to see you in such despair. I just sent you a PM.
uncertainty's second wave hurricane katrina evacuees face life after the d.c. armory
by theola s. labbe
washington post staff writer.
My hubby, Art, has had it. He's leaving the congregation.
jgnat,
Is this true? He's finally had enough, huh?
uncertainty's second wave hurricane katrina evacuees face life after the d.c. armory
by theola s. labbe
washington post staff writer.
I have nothing but respect for old folks.
I do too. I don't even know enough people who are 70 and older to make a blanket statement about how feel about that age group as a whole. But, I do know enough of them (my grandparents included) that I like them in spite of any grouchiness that may be attributed to their age. And I wouldn't want to see them disregarded and set aside like yesterday's garbage.
i was talking with my older two boys.
they were really glad we stopped going to the kh and being practicing jw.
they went on and told me about things they thought.
Because I never felt that I measured up, I wished for death to come to me. I thought about it a lot. I knew I couldn't commit suicide because that's unforgiveable, right? I wished I could die in my sleep because I couldn't take pain. I also knew that if for some reason I was alive during Armageddon and my faith was tested, I would not stand. I would tell whomever threatened my life where the Watchtower headquarters was and whatever else they wanted to know.
uncertainty's second wave hurricane katrina evacuees face life after the d.c. armory
by theola s. labbe
washington post staff writer.
The fact is we don't know the whole story, and what kind of JW gal this was and how she behaved once she was in their home. Some people are totally lacking in good manners. You all know people who seem ok until your around them more and see that they are totally lacking in common sense and good manners.
True...there are 3 sides to every story. Here's what we know...she was 78. She left the first home because the family was going out of town. o.k. they didn't want to leave a 78 year old woman home alone -- she could have special needs. But the other family sent her on her way because they had other family visiting -- that's temporary. If you have a house full of people, how much more difference does one person make. We all have heard the awesome, heartwarming stories about people who have taken in entire families who were victims of Hurricane Katrina. That's a real inconvenience.
Now, it's possible that she may have been a bit spunky, maybe even a little rude, but I'm not so sure how rowdy you can expect a 78 year old woman to be to make you put her out on the street with a 14-day hotel voucher. My conscience would not allow me to do such a thing. I have opened my home to family members who were not very good or respectful guests, but I didn't put any of them out.
According to what the witnesses believe, after Armageddon, there will be trying times worse than the after affects of Hurricane Katrina. What are these types of witnesses going to do when they have to put up 20 families, instead of one person. Just a question.
uncertainty's second wave hurricane katrina evacuees face life after the d.c. armory
by theola s. labbe
washington post staff writer.
By Theola S. Labbe
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 14, 2005; Page B01
The shelter for New Orleans evacuees at the D.C. Armory was about to close, but Stella Oselem wasn't worried. After weeks of kindness from strangers, Oselem, 78, decided to accept an offer to live in a private D.C. home with someone who shared her Jehovah's Witness faith.
But soon after she moved in, her host went on a trip and put her with another family. Then, about a week later, the second host told her to leave to make room for out-of-town family members, Oselem said.
With dwindling options, she found herself this week at a walk-in center for Hurricane Katrina evacuees at D.C. General Hospital. She clutched a white slip of paper, a referral for a hotel in Rockville.
"Thank God I got it," Oselem said of the 14-day hotel voucher sponsored by the American Red Cross. Her social worker said she would try to get Oselem's name on a federal housing list for a senior citizen apartment.
SHE WAS A SENIOR CITIZEN FOR GOODNESS SAKE! I GUESS THAT'S AGAPE LOVE FOR YOU.
i can't help thinking that if i had never gotten baptized out of loyalty and fear of disappointing my parents (and fear of having my flesh eaten by birds of prey after being destroyed in armageddon), i would not be in this situation.
i have several family members and former friends who were raised as jws, but never got baptized, and they never have to experience the angst and pain that i have to experience.
i was baptized and never dedicated my life.
JustTickledPink,
I agree that I should try not to live in the past. And as soon as I have this all behind me and it is in the past, I'll certainly do that. Unfortunately, for me (and I'm sure many others) I'm still living it. So until I figure out and get a hold of the past and truly understand where I've been, I cannot possibly begin to patch up the present and begin to prepare and work towards the future.
why did ct russell name his magazine zions watchtower, herald of christs presence (now the watchtower)?
i cant find reference to that anywhere.
it is interesting that the witnesses legal corporation is also watchtower bible and tract society.
I Google'd this: "charles russell" "freemason" and came up with this site, among others.
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/jws_christian_science.htm
The text below comes from the book called "To Be God Of One World" by Robert Sessler who got most of this information from the book "The Watchtower And The Masons" by Fritz Springmeier.
What about the Church of Jehovah's Witnesses? This church was founded by Charles T. Russell. Russell was certainly well acquainted with the Occult and Masonry because he used the 33rd Degree Masonic Symbol 9winged sun-disk with opposing snakes) in some of his books! He also used the Knights Templar symbol (a cross inside a crown sometimes encircled by a wreathe or glory) in a number of his papers and books. Russell is also buried in a pyramid with Masonic symbols on its capstone.
Charles Russell even gave a sermon in which he stated that Jesus Christ was the "Grand Master" of this Order to which Russell and the rest of the Jehovah's Witnesses belonged! He stated:
"...the Lord Jesus, the grand and everlasting Head and Master of this Order...the Grand Master....We are not hindered from telling the ultimate purposes of this grand Secret Order which our Lord organized..."
But this tactic of trying to make Jesus Christ of Nazareth the head of a Secret Order devoted to the occult is nothing new. Adam Weishaupt states exactly the same thing about his Secret Order of the Illuminati, which is devoted to the occult:
"Jesus of Nazareth, the Grand Master of our Order, appeared at a time when the world was in the utmost disorder...he took in the aid of Religion...and, in a very clever manner, he combined his secret doctrines with the popular religion...and they have been handed down to us...by the Free Masons."
So there is very little difference seen between the "Order" or the Jehovah's Witnesses church that Russell founded, and the Order which Weishaupt founded for the purpose of bringing in and ruling a New Age. In fact Russell frequently talked about this New Age--calling it a "Golden Age" to come. He preached a sermon on it entitled "Must We Abandon Hope of a Golden Age." He even established a paper called The Golden Age which is now called Awake.
But is this teaching of the "Golden Age to come" exclusively Charles Russell's and the Jehovah's Witnesses? No!
"...the 17,500 [Masonic] lodges of the U.S. and Canada...are to act as harbingers of that 'New Order of the Ages,' that Great Golden Age that is to come...May the Masonic Order become reoriented to make its peculiar contribution to that Glorious Objective."
But this hope of a "Golden Age to come" does not originate with the Masons either. It is an ancient Egyptian and Babylonian term specifying the time which "men and gods could live together happily." Hence we see that this great push towards a New World Order for the Ages, is nothing more than the ancient Plan for a One World System.
But these occultic and spiritualistic teachings of Russell's did not pass away when he died, but continue within the church of Jehovah's Witnesses. The church teaches the New Age belief that "Now we are in the end of this gospel age, and the kingdom [of Christ] is being established or set up." That this kingdom "will obtain full, universal control...in the earth, [and that] He whose right it is thus to take dominion will then be present as earth's new Ruler" who will reign over "the new order of things on earth" in "His millennial kingdom."
the bible is a serious book.. and the bible is a set of instructions set before mankind.
i believe being disfellowshipped the second time here makes me feel upset.
it would make anyone hurt frustrated or mad.
The preacher today talked about how he wished that every person striving to find truth can experience a similar "Damascus" light that Saul experienced when he realized that in all his spiritual zeal, he was actually upholding rituals and practices that were not scriptural. That brought a tear to my eyes and moved me to dig deeper. Today, I found these sites with info on the background on the origin of the JW faith. This site references a book that discusses the origin of Jehovah's Witnesses. I didn't know that it was a spin-off of the Adventist Church. (http://www.adventistu.baznica.lv/en/news-anr-19970801_en.php) A short history of the Watchtower Organization (http://www.adventistu.baznica.lv/en/news-anr-19970801_en.php) More bizarre facts: http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/russellprophet.htm
I am definitely going to purchase the Crisis of Conscience book this week.
