Posts by ICBehindtheCurtain

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Howdy

by serendipity in

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hi, newbie here.

i'm a "liberal" jw (please don't hold that against me .

peace and love to all..... ~ serendipity ~

ICBehindtheCurtain

A very warm WELCOME to you Serendipity , I hope you enjoy your stay here, I certainly am.

I began my journey over 9 mos ago, and what a journey it's been, you are in for a ride, but I'm loving it, I've learned more in those 9 mos than in all my 30 years in the WTS, the joy and freedom is great, but prepare yourself there will be also some moments of turmoil, it's hard letting go ideas that have been so closely held for so long, but then comes the tremendous sense of wonder and excitement at your new found freedom. My family and I still attend the meetings here and there, but I cannot bring myself to preach this stuff, as I no longer believe it.

Read, read, read, there's great information here, there's great people that have been where you are and will be here for you should you need them.

Enjoy!

IC

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JW acting skills put to the test

by watch the tower in

i've completely stopped taking part in any jw activities for close to a year now and will be visiting my jw family for the next couple of weeks.

they have no idea that i have become "apostate".

for all they know i am still an active jw.

ICBehindtheCurtain

Hi WTT, I wish you luck buddy, some close family members and I are faders, and I know exactly what you mean, it is really hard to keep shut about what we know, especially if you have really zealous family members whose every other word is Jehovah - If Jehovah allows, thanks to Jehovah etc, UGHHH - it can get irritating.

I've already stuck my foot in my mouth on occasion, so be very careful, just think to yourself "Theocratic warfare strategy" and you will be ok.

IC

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WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE HUMAN RACE?!

by Mary in

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i watched dr. phil yesterday, where they were highlighting the disappearance of natalee holloway who disappeared in aruba over 5 months ago, and amy bradley who vanished from a cruise ship 7 years ago.

i always assumed that these girls were raped and then murdered and they very likely could be, but the program highlighted the sex-slave trade that is growing in leaps and bounds all over the world.

i sat there and listened in shock as one guy revealed what happens to some of these girls during snuff movies.

ICBehindtheCurtain

You know? it's not that I sit and overly worry about something bad happening to my family and no I don't watch Oprah, although I think she's pretty kool, but, I would like to take some self defense classes, and I want to take shooting lessons, I figure, hey might as well, just in case I'm ever faced with that predicament.

I just want to empower myself and not just mentally, enough of this Jehovah will protect us CRAP, I want to be feel capable of protecting my family if need be.

IC

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David and Solomon...little more than tribal chieftans?

by Rubyvixen in

there was an interesting article in the ny times recently regarding an ancient alphabet discovery.

i found one paragraph in the article of particular interest though : .

"a vocal minority of scholars contend that the bible's picture of the 10th century b.c.

ICBehindtheCurtain

RubyV thanks for starting this topic, I have researched this and there is not proof that these people were what the bible claims, Gollum that is an interesting site, is it not? I have it saved in my favorites also.

IC

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Weekend Caption Competition

by ballistic in

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i found this on someones blog and thought it would make a good caption competition.

i know some of you are really good at this... so... who'll start?.

ICBehindtheCurtain

The people standing around are ex JW's, the people in black are current JW's 30 years from now, after GB have had their way removing anything that gives the R & F any happiness and joy, and this will be the end result, no short skirts, no cleavage, no flirty fashions, no college, no TV, no Computers, NOTHING, just completeley black outfits so as not to tempt the brothers and PREACH, PREACH, PREACH THE END IS NEAR!

IC

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-20-05 WT Study (Haughty)

by blondie in

" was pharaoh's haughty.

"your heart became haughty".

"-isaiah 2:17.. humble christians--only jws.

ICBehindtheCurtain

Thank you once again Blondie, your hard work is really appreciated!

This morning I was considering going to the meeting, because I haven't been, in a few weeks, and I've got to show up once in a while (fader you know), but in reviewing the CRAP that is being served today, I decided HELL NO, I CAN'T GO!

The GB, WTS Service Dept., and Writing Dept. should really sit their pompous asses down and read their own damn article, it might help them to see themselves for what they really are...oh wait..... they already know.

How people keep buying this BS, is beyond me, instead of attracting more people to the meetings they are shooting themselves in the foot, don't you people know that you can attract more bees with honey, than with vinegar? oh wait, no, I take that back, keep serving vinegar, I heard that bees subconciously really dig that!

IC (the vinegar will hopefully open their eyes class)

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Jesus was a liar.

by nicolaou in

firstly, it is not my intention here to offend anyone so if you are likely to get upset at reading 'blasphemous' statements or criticism of jesus then perhaps you should go to another topic.

also, i am not in the habit of making personal attacks on other posters, if you decide to stay and read this - don't attack me!

by all means rip my post to pieces and explain where i got it all wrong, but don't shoot the messenger.. and remember, i come from the same place as most of you, i was one of jehovah's witnesses for over thirty years.

ICBehindtheCurtain

Notice that none of the apologists have said a word about what I posted earlier regarding different myths that Jesus shared attributes with, or the interesting parallels between Jesus' ministry and Titus' campaign.

Don't acknowledge it, don't read it, make believe it doesn't exist and your world will continue on as usual, Nicolaou I don't share your beliefs, I believe there is a God, but I respect your viewpoints, and think that resorting to missquoting your words, and taking them out of context is just what religious apologists do, when faced with ideas that may force them to look at the facts.

IC

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Does Your Family Eat Dinner Together?

by Scully in

interesting article from today's national post:.

we don't eat together, and are paying for itfamilies in crisis: researchers say suppers apart may cause social ills misty harriscanwest news service.

monday, october 17, 2005. .

ICBehindtheCurtain

Yes we do, we take this time to talk to the kids ask about their day, share jokes, talk about goals we have as a family also we discuss the new things we learn in our newfound religious freedom, sometimes since we can see the TV from the dining room we might watch some interesting History channel special, and discuss that. We also like to watch The George Lopez show, among others.

We try to do this as often as possible, it gives children a sense of structure and gives us a chance to see what's going on in their heads, that we might need to address.

IC

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Underground Reformed JW movement

by RealNewLight in

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this is a movement which has been growing slowly but steadily among young people in spanish and portuguese speaking congregations in the united states.

basically it is a movement created by winesses who believe in much of the teachings of the organization, but do not believe in the authority of the wts, or any other body.

they also do not believe in disfellowshiping, and believe that every decision should be a personal conscience matter.

ICBehindtheCurtain

RealNewLight, welcome to the board, I think what you all are doing is wonderfull, just don't get caught, my close family and I are still attending meetings here and there, but no longer believe in the WTS teachings. We have lifelong wonderful freinds in this, and family members and this is what we want to avoid losing. Attending the meetings is getting tough now, I have to fight hard to not just walk out, from all the mindnumbing garbage the WTS is printing lately in the Magazines.

I hope you have much success with this endeavor RNL, and may the FORCE be with you.

IC

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Jesus was a liar.

by nicolaou in

firstly, it is not my intention here to offend anyone so if you are likely to get upset at reading 'blasphemous' statements or criticism of jesus then perhaps you should go to another topic.

also, i am not in the habit of making personal attacks on other posters, if you decide to stay and read this - don't attack me!

by all means rip my post to pieces and explain where i got it all wrong, but don't shoot the messenger.. and remember, i come from the same place as most of you, i was one of jehovah's witnesses for over thirty years.

ICBehindtheCurtain

Gumby, exactly! There is no historical evidence that Herod killed these children, nothing, nada, zilch, WHY EXACTLY? Because it never happened!

IC