40 "it is because at an hour that YOU ["little flock"] do not think likely the Son of man is coming.?
And yet those who consider themselves to be members of the "little flock" seem to have a penchant for making predictions.....
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March 1st Botchtower - A "Slave Who Is Both Faithful and Discreet!"
by truthseeker invomit alert!.
if you can possibly digest one of the worst study articles the society has ever written, you will see just how devious and manipulative they are with past and present truth.. the two studys articles are from march 1st, 2004 watchtower.. i'll briefly (if that's possible!
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March 1st Botchtower - A "Slave Who Is Both Faithful and Discreet!"
by truthseeker invomit alert!.
if you can possibly digest one of the worst study articles the society has ever written, you will see just how devious and manipulative they are with past and present truth.. the two studys articles are from march 1st, 2004 watchtower.. i'll briefly (if that's possible!
) summarize both articles.
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In response to Englishman, the "parallel" passage to Matthew 24 is found in Luke 12.
Quoting from the NWT and setting the context, Jesus is asked to settle a dispute about inheritance
13 Then a certain one of the crowd said to him: ?Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.?
20 But God said to him, ?Unreasonable one, this night they are demanding your soul from you. Who, then, is to have the things you stored up?? 21 So it goes with the man that lays up treasure for himself but is not rich toward God.
Jesus then elaborates on this parable and summing up, refers to the disciples as a "little flock":
Luke 12:22 Then he said to his disciples: ........32 ?Have no fear, little flock, because YOUR Father has approved of giving YOU the kingdom.
And Jesus tells them - the little flock - what they should do
33 Sell the things belonging to YOU and give gifts of mercy [make donations to the poor]. Make purses for yourselves that do not wear out, a never-failing treasure in the heavens, where a thief does not get near nor moth consumes. 34 For where YOUR treasure is, there YOUR hearts will be also.
He warns the disciples to keep ready - and why does Jesus warn them (the "little flock") to keep ready?
Jesus tells us the reason
40 "it is because at an hour that YOU ["little flock"] do not think likely the Son of man is coming.?
At this point Peter asks Jesus whether this is relevant only to them (the "little flock") or to "all".
41 Then Peter said: ?Lord, are you saying this illustration [parable] to us or also to all??
Jesus precedes the answer with further illustration
42 And the Lord said: ?Who really is the faithful steward, the discreet one, whom his master will appoint over his body of attendants to keep giving them their measure of food supplies at the proper time? 43 Happy is that slave, if his master on arriving finds him doing so! 44 I tell YOU truthfully, He will appoint him over all his belongings.
45 But if ever that slave should say in his heart, ?My master delays coming,? and should start to beat the menservants and the maidservants, and to eat and drink and get drunk, 46 the master of that slave will come on a day that he is not expecting [him] and in an hour that he does not know, and he will punish him with the greatest severity and assign him a part with the unfaithful ones.
47 Then that slave that understood the will of his master but did not get ready or do in line with his will will be beaten with many strokes. 48 But the one that did not understand and so did things deserving of strokes will be beaten with few. Indeed, everyone to whom much was given, much will be demanded of him; and the one whom people put in charge of much, they will demand more than usual of him.
This raises a few questions about the organisational views of the "little flock", the identity of the "faithful and discreet slave" and the "144,000".
And who is represented by the slave "that did not understand"?
Watchtower 1 October 1981 ?Who Really Is the Faithful Steward, the Discreet One??
16 How, though, can we confirm that this has been the proper time for the remnant of the ?steward? class to be appointed over the enlarged ?belongings,? or interests, of the Master?
If the "steward class" numbers 144,000 and those Jehovah's Witnesses who considered themselves to be of the anointed numbered (Watchtower 15 August 1996 Questions From Readers ) 52,465 in 1935, would "remnant" be an accurate description of 36.4% of the total number who will reign as kings and priests with Christ?
And out of interest, does anyone know how many of these partakers happened to be found in the USA?
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March 1st Botchtower - "The Faithful Slave" Passes the Test!
by truthseeker inall you who have left the organization were wrong, it's time to go back and rekindle your first love!
this is the second study article: .
"the faithful slave passes the test!".
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Even more worrying when read in context
Rather than becoming embittered, however, they were readjusted.
By whom were they "readjusted"?
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March 1st Botchtower - "The Faithful Slave" Passes the Test!
by truthseeker inall you who have left the organization were wrong, it's time to go back and rekindle your first love!
this is the second study article: .
"the faithful slave passes the test!".
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readjusted
There's something very worrying about that statement!
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What I have learned about Rolf Furuli
by Faraon inon a recent thread about the year of the destruction of jerusalem, i learned from "scholar" about rolf furuli.. i looked up his name in google, and came with a few interesting links.
all i can say is that i am glad there aren't too many witnesses going to universities, especially those claiming to be researchers.
first they must take their blinds off.. a review of rolf furuli's book "the role of theology and bias in bible translation".
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An answer for the apologetics site
Furuli, Rolf http://www.apologeticsindex.org/f00.html Though Furuli does not answer the question of whether or not he is a Jehovah's Witness,
from the bmj online discussion written by R Furuli in February 2001
"As a member of the hospital liaison committee in Oslo, Norway for the last ten years the question about medical ethics and the use of blood is very important for me. When I stand at the bed of a critically ill person who has called for my assistance, I feel strongly the responsibility for building on a firm Biblical foundation - life is not something with which to play."
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Transfusion once again
by krzysiek inwhat i cannot understand is why jw are so determined not to allow to transfuse blood.
it's anachronism!
the governing body has changed so many their doctrines, why cannot they change that?
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The Bible is clear on Jehovah's thoughts on abstaining from blood.
Hello SwordofJah As Acts 15 has as its context the law of Moses, and the discussion related in that chapter is to what extent the old covenant should apply to Gentile converts to christianity, could you possibly list those activities identified within the Mosaic law relating to the item "blood" which you consider remain binding on Gentile converts and from which they should abstain?
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Transfusion once again
by krzysiek inwhat i cannot understand is why jw are so determined not to allow to transfuse blood.
it's anachronism!
the governing body has changed so many their doctrines, why cannot they change that?
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Not wishing to highjack this interesting thread nor stymie discussion, but .....
Elamona, you might be interested in a study into prion disease and immunotherapy featured in "nature" on 6th March, 2003 which has shown some encouraging results.
Online access ( http://www.nature.com/cgi-taf/DynaPage.taf?file=/nature/journal/v422/n6927/abs/nature01457_fs.html&dynoptions=doi1073146840 ) is limited to the first paragraph of the article entitled "Monoclonal antibodies inhibit prion replication and delay the development of prion disease". Access to the entire article requires a registration process.
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Should they use the sacred name of God? YHWH
by Sirona innow you may think i'm a little slow to catch on here.
this morning was the first time it occurred to me that the jw's use of the tetragrammaton may actually be a huge insult to other faiths.
admittedly they use a modern day english version of the name of god - jehovah.
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You might care to visit the Jews for Judaism site and read the essay by Gerald Sigal which contains the following statement -
"It is absurd to excuse the use of the pseudo-name "Jehovah" by saying it is the most common well-known name of God in the English language. God did not give His divine name in English; He gave it in Hebrew. The Watchtower Society's insistence that "God's personal name [is] Jehovah" is completely erroneous. God's personal name is not, and cannot be, "Jehovah." "
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Missing girl's body found.
by ignored_one indon't know if this has been posted:.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/3275065.stmmurder police find alicia's body police have found the body of missing devon teenager alicia eborne.
the discovery was made by search experts on a thickly wooded slope near denham bridge at buckland monachorum on dartmoor.
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The latest news in this tragic case was also added to http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/61934/942873/post.ashx#942873
Man Charged With Alicia's Murder
A 39-YEAR-OLD man has been charged with the murder of college student Alicia Eborne.
Lee Holbrook, from Plymouth, Devon, will appear before Torbay Magistrates on Monday.
A search team found the body of 18-year-old Alicia in woodland at an isolated spot near Buckland Monachorum on the edge of Dartmoor.
The discovery came nine days after the teenager went missing from her home in Corntown, Devon. She had been due to walk half a mile from the Dartmoor hamlet into nearby Cornwood to catch a bus into Plymouth.
Holbrook, who works as a bus driver, was arrested on Thursday night on suspicion of abduction and was arrested on Saturday on suspicion of murder.
The teenager's body was found in thick woods at a secluded spot near the River Tavy around 15 miles from her home.
At its height around 80 police officers were involved in the search for Alicia.
Forensic examinations were being carried out in the area where her body was found. Police continued to search an area close to Bickleigh around seven miles away.
Alicia's Jehovah's Witness parents Anthony and Joan Eborne were informed of the discovery, police said. The couple had earlier made an emotional appeal for the teenager's safe return.
Detective Chief Superintendent Jim Webster, head of CID at Devon and Cornwall police, said: "At this time our thoughts are with Alicia's family and friends. We would like to express our deep sympathy for her family and to state the distress and concern this has caused to all those who have been hunting for Alicia in the hope she would be found well."
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Missing JW Daughter
by Smyler ini don't know if this has been posted or not..
5:24pm (uk).
by chris court and louise barnett, pa news .
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The latest news to add to this sad thread
Man Charged With Alicia's Murder
A 39-YEAR-OLD man has been charged with the murder of college student Alicia Eborne.
Lee Holbrook, from Plymouth, Devon, will appear before Torbay Magistrates on Monday.
A search team found the body of 18-year-old Alicia in woodland at an isolated spot near Buckland Monachorum on the edge of Dartmoor.
The discovery came nine days after the teenager went missing from her home in Corntown, Devon. She had been due to walk half a mile from the Dartmoor hamlet into nearby Cornwood to catch a bus into Plymouth.
Holbrook, who works as a bus driver, was arrested on Thursday night on suspicion of abduction and was arrested on Saturday on suspicion of murder.
The teenager's body was found in thick woods at a secluded spot near the River Tavy around 15 miles from her home.
At its height around 80 police officers were involved in the search for Alicia.
Forensic examinations were being carried out in the area where her body was found. Police continued to search an area close to Bickleigh around seven miles away.
Alicia's Jehovah's Witness parents Anthony and Joan Eborne were informed of the discovery, police said. The couple had earlier made an emotional appeal for the teenager's safe return.
Detective Chief Superintendent Jim Webster, head of CID at Devon and Cornwall police, said: "At this time our thoughts are with Alicia's family and friends. We would like to express our deep sympathy for her family and to state the distress and concern this has caused to all those who have been hunting for Alicia in the hope she would be found well."