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UGG - Welcome to the Board

by Nowfree in

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after being indoctrinated against talking to apostates for years, it is scarey to suddenly start talking on the internet.

but it does help to talk with others who have had the same experiences of the wt society - otherwise you end up thinking you are the only one finding a problem with it.. don't be intimidated by your local elders - they are just as indoctrinated as the rest, and probably have secret fears themselves about the organisation.. i was brought up as a jw for 20 years, was baptised.

i left 18 months ago - i now feel happier than i have ever done - i can think for myself, make decisions for myself.

ugg

it was beyond scarey......i was terrified......i was told,,,,speaking to you,,,,was like speaking to the

devil.....my husband is an elder,,,,and i am still "IN THE TRUTH" but have basically been in hiding

for a year....no meetings,,,,long story as to how i have managed that.....conscience and guilt, guilt

and more guilt are still active....but it is very very slowly getting better....it has been very hard....

i almost took my life......another long story....i think you just reach a point where it becomes a

matter of survival,,,,,,and just say NO MORE....i am lonely.....as you all know,,,,you cannot have

worldily friends....and i don't have any....except where i work.....and i don't socialize with witnesses....i cannot deal with it on a mental level.....although they have been kind,,,,and have tried

to reach me...in every way possible....i do not wish to hurt my family,,,,,i have been in the truth

for 30 years....i know THE HURT,,,THE SHAME,,,,THE GUILT,,,,that results from not being

obedient....it is not an individual punishment,,,,,it affects every one....and so public.....i guess i

am venting.....i worked all night.....and had to put in over time....so i am tired....and trying to

relax.....the thing that has surprized me the most,,,,is that you are PEOPLE.....what i have been

told and taught,,,,is you are all completely evil.......but what i see is that you laugh,,,care,,,,,

and seem to tell the truth.....how odd....from what i expected......i have lived in a dark tunnel....

i have NEVER had worldily friends.....as a result,,,,,i also have no social skills....HICK!!!!!!! i don't

know what the future will hold.....the old saying time will tell.....i do not know how long i will be

allowed to stay in hiding....forever i hope.....as i am doing better.....i have worldily family that i

am close to....they do not live by me,,,,but i talk and write often,,,,i love them all....but how do you

say,,,,i love you,,,,and by the way god is going to kill you because you are not good enough to

save?????? i cannot deal with all of the reasoning any more....and i don't want to....ENOUGH....

OH MY,,,,i have really vented....thought i would write a novel....ha ha ha....time for bed....good night.

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Watchtower Moves In For Kill On silentlambs

by silentlambs in

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draffenville

congregation

of jehovah's witnesses

ugg

no tape recordings,,,,witnesses,,,,or lawyers:::BECAUSE!!!!! they are terrified of apostasy....

things i have been told are the following:::::you are all demonized,,,you lie and will do anything to

take members away from the truth....anyone helping you is considered demonic.....thus:::: a

lawyer,,,witnesses will lie for you in the public....tape recordings altered....same with video....

literature recieved should NOT be viewed,,,,thus satan getting a foot hold on you....burn immediately.......these sites are considered demonic,,,,,being caught here....well.....you know the

rest of the story.....i am a newbie....i was terrified to even register on this site......what the

congregation here is being told,,,is that it is ALL lies made up by YOU!!!!!!! that tv is being used by

satan....and of course satan is using you!!!!!! my surprize,,,,,you seem like nice,,,NORMAL

people......why am i here.....lonliness......can't take it anymore....not dis'f or dis'a.....30 years in

truth....officially still in,,,,,have heard stories horror stories of apostates that would make a

steven king movie seem like a disney flick.....thanks for listening....

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THE DILEMMA FACING APOSTATES

by You Know in

the dilemma facing apostate jehovahs witnesses, or apostate dubs, as i have dubbed them, (no pun intended) is the very fact of their seeming success.

one of the great ironies of the apostate movement, that presumptuously boasts of "know the truth about the truth," is that apostates themselves are bound by the watchtower's own interpretive shortcomings, and hence are massively ignorant of jehovahs judicial decisions regarding his organization.

in that the presumption in operation is that if enough scandal and error can be brought to light regarding the governing body, the watchtower society's teachings, as well as individual jehovah's witnesses, then that somehow means that jehovah's witnesses have no connection with jehovah god.

ugg

for crazy drinker,,,,,,,'MY TOILET HAS A DEMON!!!!!!! omg!!!!! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

more more!!!!!! applause applause.......this is great stuff....ha ha ha ha

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THE DILEMMA FACING APOSTATES

by You Know in

the dilemma facing apostate jehovahs witnesses, or apostate dubs, as i have dubbed them, (no pun intended) is the very fact of their seeming success.

one of the great ironies of the apostate movement, that presumptuously boasts of "know the truth about the truth," is that apostates themselves are bound by the watchtower's own interpretive shortcomings, and hence are massively ignorant of jehovahs judicial decisions regarding his organization.

in that the presumption in operation is that if enough scandal and error can be brought to light regarding the governing body, the watchtower society's teachings, as well as individual jehovah's witnesses, then that somehow means that jehovah's witnesses have no connection with jehovah god.

ugg

dip shit!!!!!! ha ha ha ha ha good one!

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re: Taking a balanced view of the allegations?

by Visionary Man in

this is my first post on this forum.

i am by all accounts a witness, if not an ideal one.

in light of the reaction after the panorama program i have seen a mixed variety of responses.

ugg

visionary man:::::: you stated that YOU DON'T BELIEVE THE SOCIETY IS DIVINELY INSPIRED!!!!

i have been "in the truth" for 30 years.....my husband of 30 years is a SPIRITED appointed ELDER!!!

the field service is GUIDED AND DIRECTED by the angels and gods holy SPIRIT!!!!! the watchtower

and awake magazine printed and guided by gods holy SPIRIT.....the governing body,,,,,heavenly

partakers,,,,are chosen by gods holy SPIRIT,,,,,,,commitee meetings,,,,return visits,,,,disfellowshippings ,,,,,reproofs....ect ect.....all started with opening prayer and gods

HOLY SPIRIT.....(excuse my spacing,,,,,i am computer dumb,,,and don't know how to fix it)

i don't mean to sound harsh,,,,,,i am NOT disfellowshipped or disassociated.....but have been in

"IN HIDING" for a year.....very long sad story.....i chose death....spiritual death....i no longer

care....yes,,,my husband is still SPIRIT APPOINTED.....( regardless of the fact that he cannot

pray with out an audience,,,and never could) ok,,,,i am tired and venting some...the reasoning::::

say anything bad about an elder and reap the consequences....GO TO THE HALL,,,,TELL EVERY

ONE THERE THAT YOU FEEL THE ORGANIZATON IS NOT" DIVINELY INSPIRED" if you are

in the RIGHT HALL,,,,,,you will know where we are coming from.....EVERY congregation has a

personality.....some passive,,,some so strick you can't breathe....which is why i stated the

"RIGHT" HALL.....all of this spirit at work,,,.......yet so many shed tears and destroyed lives....

SAD SAD SAD SAD..........AGAIN,,,,i did not mean to come across harshly,,,,,just venting

and hurting so much inside......thank you......please understand.....

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Helping Newbies Understand YOU KNOW

by JT in

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for those of you who may not be aware of who bobby is better know as "you know".

allow me to share some things about this man that may help to shed some light on his mindset as a jw.. one of the most important things i have found when dealing with "loyal" jw on the net is to find out thier status with in the org, esp if they are male- .

you see this organization is a "position" driven organization, esp for males and if they have no position within thier local congo - other than mike handler after being a jw for years then that means in most cases the male jw is considered a flunky- we have seen guys as young as 17 being appointed as ms-.

ugg

ha ha ha ha ha! good one......pity his wife!!!!! do they have children?????? hope not!!!!!

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Jehovahs Witness Deterrent

by The_Bad_Seed in

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you may or may not have seen this approach before, but i suggest all of you find one and buy one.... http://www.poddys.com/jokes/cart_325.htm

ugg

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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For the new ones to this site....

by Mimilly in

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i've noticed many new ones to our lil community here and have been unable to welcome you all personally.

there is a great variety of people here and loads of information and support.

feel free to vent!

ugg

i am a newbie,,,,i have posted twice before this.....thank you for the welcome every one....that was

real nice.....ugg.....

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Hardline on disfellowshipped ones

by eyeslice in

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once again a hard line is being taken on shunning disfellowshipped and disassociated ones.

perhaps this is some sort of backlash against the recent adverse dateline publicity in the us, the forthcoming pananorama programme in the uk and problems with a number of influential ones leaving the organization.

the text below is from the august km insert and the meeting part is to be handled by a "well qualified" elder with the paragraphs being read by a "capable reader".

ugg

you are right....the disassociated will be publicly removed.....families crushed and broken....no middle ground.....things are going to get tough.....real tough....you have to be there to understand it....i am there......i am broken........ugg....

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Doctor Visit Today

by Amazing in

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well folks: i had my first follow-up visit, and things are not as good as i was hoping.

essentially, using diet and exercise to try and reverse my clogged arteries is okay for 15 areas which are 50% or less clogged, by 2 of the points are 80% occluded ... and must be treated in a matter of months, or i face death inside a year ... so, i have some time, but not as i hoped.

the two bad occlusions art each at the intersections of main branches ... and either of them would likely kill me if they close up.. the doctor was impressed with my diet changes, lifestyle adjustments, and weight loss and level of recovery ... but the recovery is limited, in that i still have some strong angina with mild exercise, strongly suggesting my heart does not get enough blood when i exercise, and then when i eat a large meal, the stomach uses enough blood flow, that the heart gets starved and i go into serious angina ... soooo ... i am ordered to limit exercise and eat 6 to 8 tiny meals a day ... and i am even getting a handicap sign for my car ... yikes!

ugg

you do not know me,,,,but you would be surprized at how much better the surgery would be for you...you would have direct results......sounds much much worse than it is.....take a tour of the

facilities.....see the equipment,,,,WATCH THE MOVIE of it.....the first day of recovery is hell.....

but home with in a week,,,,,,,,ok,,,it is a personal decision.....just some thing to think about....does

this make you change your mind about jehovah at all....you know....life and death situation....just

wondering....ugg