Thank you for all of your research. Please keep us updated with what you find.
Maybe this information will help some of us who still have family in.
Sheri
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i don't know if it has been mentionned here.. concerning this: http://www.iapso.org/pdf/review2003.pdf where the watchtower is mentionned as a costumer of the iapso service of the un, i have written on a french's forum some text, i hope that didier could sum-up and translate my thoughts.. just an extract of http://webbuy.iapso.org/conditions/conditions.asp to try to explain the problem concerning the condition to buy something with iapso:.
""2.1 you are only eligible to register and become an authorised user to use this website and request services provided by iapso for the purposes of assisting the un system, governments receiving aid, organizations co-operating with the un system such as donor government aid organizations and non-governmental organizations (ngos), as well as internationally recruited un staff members and experts with tax-free import privileges.
Thank you for all of your research. Please keep us updated with what you find.
Maybe this information will help some of us who still have family in.
Sheri
Wow, what an awesome video. My mom and I just watched it and all we can say is that you must be some kind of genius.
Thank you,
Sheri
it took a long time, but i can finally say i'm out and i took my family with me.. this is my first post but i have been reading here for a while.
i was brought up a witness, in a family that was very 'strong' (or so everyone thought).
i didnt have a relationship with my perents at all other than the 'family study'.
Happy for you and your family. Merry Christmas - well, in a few months anyway.
Sheri
i would like some advice from any that are willing to offer it.. we have a neighbor that we have been developing a friendship with her and her husband.
my son likes to play with her boys of the same age as well.
she has four kids and they run all over her.
Thank you all for your replies.
BabaYaga that is almost exactly like our situation. It does make it difficult to be around but I don't think that we have been friends long enough for me to say things to her children. My son isn't perfect either. It feels wrong to correct someone else when you don't have the perfect child. Though, he doesn't treat me like they treat her.
Chickpea, you probably hit something big there. The kids seem to eat a lot of sugar. Any suggestions on how to say that nicely?
Hotchocolate, I have already apologised. I told her that I was sorry if I overstepped my bounds and that raising four kids was a totally different story than raising one.
Thank you Sass and Mind my own. Your comments made me feel a little better.
Sheri
i would like some advice from any that are willing to offer it.. we have a neighbor that we have been developing a friendship with her and her husband.
my son likes to play with her boys of the same age as well.
she has four kids and they run all over her.
I would like some advice from any that are willing to offer it.
We have a neighbor that we have been developing a friendship with her and her husband. My son likes to play with her boys of the same age as well. She has four kids and they run all over her. They seem to be pretty nice kids on the whole but they cry a lot and throw temper tantrums and are very unappreciative (what kid isn't). Anyway, she has complained a bit about the problems to me. The other night her and I took the kids to the movies and all three of her kids threw some kind of fit at least once. This isn't the first time I have seen them act that way. Well, this evening she was speaking to me about it and I might have overstepped my bounds, I told her that her kids abused her and ran all over her and that I felt really sorry for her. I told her that I thought that she was a great parent and that the kids were great kids but that they seemed to really treat her bad. Also, told her that my mom had four kids and when I see the way her kids treat her it makes me want to call my mom and apologize.
Well, now I feel like I said too much and wish that I could just listen and not offer advice. It isn't like I have a ton of experience, we have one five year old. Do you think that I said too much and that I could have offended her? What should I say in the future that would be kind and friendly but not overstepping boundaries?
Any advise would be welcome. Friends are hard to come by, don't really want to loose the few I have by my stupid mouth.
Sheri
as many of you know i went to south america (ecuador) for my vacation, and to meet some of my wife's family and friends, so i will write a bit about what happend.
first, this was not a typical relaxing vacation with laying out on the beach and drinking cocktails, our first day we took a 3 hour car ride outside the capitol to a area that we hike to see huge waterfall, along the way we toured some volcanos, now quito, ecuador is in some parts as high up as 9,600 ft high, and in that high elevation, a sea level guy like me had some problems, stomach aches, headaches, body aches, and shortness of breath, but i did fine.
after a few days of visiting volcanos, and other historical points of interest, my wife's best friend's husband has a cousin who is a captain in the ecuadorian air force, i was told that we were going to visit him because he is stationed in a town at the gateway to the amazon, so we took a nearly 5 hour car ride into the amazon, along the way stopping at some more volcanos, and little shops to buy shrunken heads.
Worldy Andre,
I am so jealous. Absolutely love Ecuador. Lived in Loja for 6 months a while back. My dad owns part of a tour boat in the Galapagos. He goes out there about once a year to spend a week or so on the boat. It is really a beautiful country. Sounds like you had a great time hope you left the rest of the stomach problems there and have come home feeling great.
Sheri
i'm a jw in good standing and she is too.
she has had a lot of questions.
now, i feel like there is a division between us.
People are saying that the faithful slave are false prophets. If that is true, then based upon Mark 3:22-30 with the illustration that Jesus gave us, then this religion will not be able to stand but is coming to an end. Also, in verse 29, whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit has no forgiveness forever, but is guilty of everlasting sin. This because they were saying he has an unclean spirit. Is the society working off an unclean spirit? If so, then why does anybody here have to worry? Jehovah will correct it and make his congregation clean.
Do you feel that the Catholic Church is full of false prophets? The Catholic Church is the oldest Christian religion in existence, it has more members than any other Christian religion. If you believe that the Catholic Church is a false prophet, why then is it still standing when Mark 3:22-30 illustrates that it should be at an end (hundreds of years ago). Please don't forget that the Catholic Church put together the inspired word of God, the cannon that you now accept as Gods Holy Spirit inspired word, at the council of Nicea. Yet, you don't believe they are the true religion and they prosper. If they were ever inspired, which they would of had to been because they put together the bible that you consider inspired by Gods direction, maybe, Jehovah is trying to make that congregation clean.
You wife is thinking outside of "Mens" direction. She is following her heart and she is probably scared to death to come to you or the elders and express her doubts and concerns.
When my husband and I accidentally found out about the Watchtowers association with the UN as a NGO. Mind you, this was not done by looking on the internet. We heard from a fellow witness that this was the case. I doubted it and wanted to prove to the person that it was a lie. We called the UN and they faxed over a letter stating the association was actually true. It then came to the elders attention that we found out about the UN association and they wanted to have a judicial committee meeting with us affirming ourfaith in the Faithful Slave and that we were not apostate. We had to show them the letter from the UN on the UN letterhead to prove that we had gotten the information directly from the UN. When we were completely stumbled by this action and stopped attending the meetings the elders met to disfellowship us. We were not DF'd but we are treated as such whenever we see a witness in town. Gossip has my husband and I as apostates. That is your loving congregation, the one that you want your wife to go to and ask for help.
Why don't you try and have her meet with the elders and express her doubts and fears and then come on here and tell us that she isn't disfellowshipped or treated as an apostate? Then how will you treat her when she has been labeled as such? Will you treat her with love and understanding? Will you allow her freedom of choice?
Your wife obviously loves you, show her you love her.
Sheri
salutations everyone.
i am rather new to this site.
(finding it as i did, like a man stumbling upon some late night coven in the woods) anyway, i am a ms and member of the hitler youth (whoops, there i go again, i meant to say "pioneer") who has just decided to begin the great fade.
Have fun fading.... There are so many things that I wish I could go back and do just to irritate everyone.
Welcome to the board.
Loruhamah
dad, .
i doubt youll even read this letter since it comes from your son, a son youve abandoned over your religious views, but i wanted to write you one final letter to see if theres any hope that you can come to your senses as far as this religion goes and we can renew our relationship.
im doing this because i care for you and mom deeply and feel very much distressed that you two refuse to see anyones opinion as being factual other than your own when it concerns the jw religion.
Dawg
It is a great letter. Hope he reads it and comes around again. I can't imagine the loss you feel.
Sheri
life!
i have begun to live it - instead of waiting on the 'real life' we had been promised as jw's.
it started 4 years ago - but it moved slowly past the weeks and months of 'research', trying to find where i fit, then into an understanding that i didn't - at least not conventionally, fit anywhere, religiously speaking.
AK Jeff
You have the most wonderful way of saying things. Thank you for the little extra spring in my step this evening.
sheri