Just wondering. When I was a witness, we had Presiding Overseer, and would say P-O for short. Do they spell it out when they say COBE or do they say it with as a word?
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How do JWs pronounce COBE?
by Wild_Thing injust wondering.
when i was a witness, we had presiding overseer, and would say p-o for short.
do they spell it out when they say cobe or do they say it with as a word?
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Inside the JW HQ Warwick, NY
by baldeagle inhere is a short 2-minute video from fox 5 news reviewing the new jw hq in warwick, ny.. the first thing the jw spokesperson says is, “our primary purpose is not to convert, but to give people an opportunity to see what the bible has to say.”.
next the reporter says, “the new world headquarters, which opened last year, is home to about 800 jehovah's witnesses.”.
it seems to me that 800 is an extremely low number since the glory days in brooklyn.
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Trying to figure out why the Iliana in the article chose to highlight the fact that she can go shopping on the weekend if she likes. Seems like a sad attempt to bring an air of normalcy to the cult HQ.
Yes, and in the process, it just makes them sound more cultish. In other words ... "Sometimes they let me out!"
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Inside the JW HQ Warwick, NY
by baldeagle inhere is a short 2-minute video from fox 5 news reviewing the new jw hq in warwick, ny.. the first thing the jw spokesperson says is, “our primary purpose is not to convert, but to give people an opportunity to see what the bible has to say.”.
next the reporter says, “the new world headquarters, which opened last year, is home to about 800 jehovah's witnesses.”.
it seems to me that 800 is an extremely low number since the glory days in brooklyn.
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Wild_Thing
"It's first and foremost a religion ..."
--Bryce Hemmelgarn, a spokesperson for Jehovah's Witnesses.
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why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?
by poopie inwhat do you think there hiding?.
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Just think about the ARC that was conducted here in Australia with 1006 cases of child sexual abuse handled by Elders that were never reported to the authorities or police over the past 35? years .With a population of about 60-70 thousand Jehovah`s Witnesses.
Now compare that with how many Jehovah`s Witnesses there are in the USA and what the ratio is likely to be with child sexual abuses in the congregations their.
If somebody more adept than me can do the correlation I would appreciate it.If the rate of reported cases were statistically similar in both countries, then ...
If there were 1000 reported* cases of child sexual abuse for a membership of 30,000 to 70,000 publishers in Australia, then in the U.S., there could be 16,000 - 17,000** reported* cases of abuse during the same time period. [U.S. publishers ranged from 500,000 - 1,200,000 during the same time period (1980-2016).]
This is assuming there is the same rate of abuse in both countries. I think the prevalence rate of child sexual abuse for the general population in United States and Australia may be similar, but I have read in some places that Australia's prevalence may be a bit higher. (I'll let someone else research that).
16,000-17,000 cases. If it is correct, that number is staggering to me, yet I would suspect the number is probably higher for the U.S.
* These are only the ones reported. I personally suspect the actual figure of abused children to be much higher.
** Check my math.
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The First Judicial Committee?
by Wild_Thing ini was wondering ... when do you think the first judicial committee took place?
can you imagine being the guinea pig for that kind of fiasco?
i bet they were like, "what kind of bullshit is this?".
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To my knowledge, there was no judicial committee formed surrounding that event. I don't think they even had that in place at at the time. Judicial committees came later, but I would love to know exactly when.
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When did the Jehovah's Witnesses officially become a "religion"?
by Wild_Thing inmost people know that jehovah's witnesses began as a publishing company promoting a restorationist type christianity.
people who were followers were called bible students.
but when, exactly, did it change from a "movement" to a "religion"?
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Most people know that Jehovah's Witnesses began as a publishing company promoting a restorationist type Christianity. People who were followers were called Bible Students.
But when, exactly, did it change from a "movement" to a "religion"?
And when did they start actually admitting they were a religion? I am guessing it is when they figured out claiming to be a religion would help them in the courts and in the pocketbook (no taxes).
It seems like here in America, religions have a lot of leeway to get away with just about anything. Even John Oliver created an official religion/church, just to prove how easy it can be done. I have often wondered if it is as easy to start a religion in other countries. Something else to ponder on my day home sick from work.
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The First Judicial Committee?
by Wild_Thing ini was wondering ... when do you think the first judicial committee took place?
can you imagine being the guinea pig for that kind of fiasco?
i bet they were like, "what kind of bullshit is this?".
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Wow! Thanks, sir82. I never knew there were references to treating people so horribly so early in the Watchtower.
When I read this quote, I totally heard it being said in Tony Morrison III's voice. It sounds like something he would say almost verbatim in their monthly broadcast videos.
"To be separate does not mean to be friends and companions, or to be in fellowship on any grounds. It means that we are to make a clean-cut division between ourselves and all the unclean, the impure in heart, as manifested by their disloyalty to the truth, and thereby to God, its great Author: and that this separation is to be so marked that the disfellowshipped one will be sure to know it. and that none can mistake our obedience and loyalty to the lord and his truth. There is to be no trifling or half-way obedience in this matter: for we are not only to be separate in spirit from the enemies of the Lord, but we are not to touch the unclean. As the Apostle elsewhere says we are to avoid them-to have no part or lot with them." Watchtower 1893 Oct 15 p.1588
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The First Judicial Committee?
by Wild_Thing ini was wondering ... when do you think the first judicial committee took place?
can you imagine being the guinea pig for that kind of fiasco?
i bet they were like, "what kind of bullshit is this?".
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I was wondering ... when do you think the first judicial committee took place? And what was it for?
Can you imagine being the guinea pig for that kind of fiasco? I bet they were like, "What kind of bullshit is this?"
Does anybody know what year the first disfellowshipping took place?
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"Oh, That Fine Red Glow" in Brooklyn
by Wild_Thing inthis journalist's love of the watchtower sign in brooklyn is a bit disturbing ... and weird.
i assume he was not raised a jehovah's witness, as the sign evokes fond memories for him seeing the sign's night glow of red showing the time and temp.
he takes pictures of the sign from multiple locations and angles as a "keepsake".
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This journalist's love of the Watchtower sign in Brooklyn is a bit disturbing ... and weird. I assume he was not raised a Jehovah's Witness, as the sign evokes fond memories for him seeing the sign's night glow of red showing the time and temp. He takes pictures of the sign from multiple locations and angles as a "keepsake". I wonder if he is aware how many people would love to see it burst into flames. Forget hiring someone to take it down. Give me gasoline and a torch, and I'll do it for free. And have one kick-ass party while doing it.
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2017 Memorial Partakers
by NashvilleTele inwhen does the number of memorial partakers get released for 2017. i was wondering if the number will surpass 20k.
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Interesting that the growth in partakers is roughly the same rate of Americans affected by mental illness
Since these are worldwide figures, I don't think we can draw that correlation. I would be interested in knowing the breakdown on partakers by country. I am wondering if the huge increase is coming from 3rd world countries where they have seen growth. I would also be interested in knowing if the partakers in 1st world countries (like the US) have decreased in relation to their decrease in membership in those countries.
Do they release these figures by country, or have they ever? I have been gone so long, I really don't remember.