I believe in a living universe. Planets and stars (and presumably new life) are still being created. And I believe all living things seem to be connected somehow. Is that God? Maybe, but it's not the Jehovah I grew up knowing. In my mind, Jehovah does not exist. But maybe God does ... sort of.
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ONE REASON
by snare&racket inout of interest, and to formulate a cordial chat, would you give your top one reason for your belief or non belief?.
my foremost 'one reason' for non belief is:.
the historical evidence that provides an explination and timeline for how the modern religious doctrine's and dogma developed over time.. .
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DECEPTIVE JW ELDERS - CASE#2
by Amazing indeceptive jw elders case#2 .
appointing spiritually qualified men to take the lead and serve as elders and overseers has been a feature of watch tower congregational organization since about 1972. jws were told in talks at conventions, in literature, and finally in the two versions of the organization book that the biblical criteria is used when elders meet to consider some men for appointment as an elder.
jws are also told that these qualified men are already appointed first by holy spirit, and then as the congregation is lead by that spirit to recognize them, the elders meeting is a confirmation of what god has done.
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Wild_Thing
I have not had good experiences with elders. My dad was an elder, and he lived a double life. Everyone thought he was such a wonderful man, but little did they know living with him was hell. He was an abusive monster. When things got as bad as they could get, and my mother sought help from the other elders, they told her it was a family matter and they couldn't get involved. This went on for years and asking for help at various times. After 30 years of marriage, it took a mental hospital to get us away from him. And he was either a MS or an elder for most of those years.
So after we finally got away and moved to another state, my opinion of elders didn't change. I was convinced that if you were not a hypocrit and a corrupt person, you would become so shortly after becoming an elder. A year or two before I left for good, my mother and I were at the meeting when they announced my brother-in-law was an elder. I sat there and cried. And they were not tears of joy. Everyone was congratulating him and I could not. He was such a good person. He is still an elder, and I don't know what kind of elder he is. I hope he has managed to hold on at least a little bit of the decency and kindness he use to have. I just know if you enter into that position, you really must have to sell your soul in order to do some of the things the org asks.
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Who Will the Circuit Overseers "Report" to Now???
by RubaDub ini still do not understand the new structure at this point.. there has to be something between thousands of co's and the gb.
i know there were zone overseers that the do's reported to.. i have spoken to a couple of elders i can talk to frankly and they both said they have no idea.. rub a dub.
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I don't see them reporting to the branch office. Isn't that too many? I just don't see them breaking down their pyramid of power that much. I agree, there has to be something in the middle.
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What is your biggest gripe with the WT and it's teachings?
by FL_Panthers inas the title says, please list what you find annoying with the organization..
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Wild_Thing
can you go to 9?
Challenge accepted!
8. They condemn everyone to destruction, except for themselves.
9. They teach parents to have conditional love and acceptance of their children.
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Pros & Cons of accepting JW friend request
by naazira ini recently logged into one of my many duplicate social media accounts.
i had a large amount of friend requests from congregation members.
the account is blank and i want to make it seem as though i am an active user.
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Wild_Thing
I am Facebook friends with 7 JWs, three of which are family. The other 4 asked to be Facebook friends long after I had left, just so they could play games with me. Most of them block me from seeing things on their Facebook page, including my sister. I no longer play those silly and am ready to delete them.
If you want to keep the peace, you could accept them as friends and then block them from seeing anything you post, until you post something you want them to see. If they ask, you can just tell them you don't use Facebook much.
As far as an apostate profile, you should definitely put down that your favorite TV shows are the Smurfs and any TV show with Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Your profile picture should definitely be old Charlie.
Good luck!
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What is your biggest gripe with the WT and it's teachings?
by FL_Panthers inas the title says, please list what you find annoying with the organization..
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1. Shunning
2. You can't disagree
3. You can't question
4. They suppress any and all personal goals unless they are theocratically oriented.
5. They lie and cover up wrong doings, past mistakes, and their own history.
6. They discourage advanced education.
7. They make up rules just to be different, and then df you for not folllwing made up rules.
I can go to 100 if you want me to.
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2014 Convention Audio available?
by gbrn ini was wondering if anyone is aware of any recordings of the convention as of yet?
i know its relatively early, so i may just have to wait.
just curious if anyone had a copy yet.. thanks!.
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How do you shut your mind down so you can get a good night sleep???
by jam inthe more i learn about jw's the harder it is.
to sleep at night.
the wife hit the pillow and within 5 min.. she is snoring.
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I had a couple of guided meditation cds I used. Witnesses use to be leary of meditation (not sure if they are anymore). You can get them where they are not called meditation, even though it is the same thing. Some of them are called guided relaxation. I have one called Journey into Deep Relaxation. It is 40 minutes long and corny as hell, but it works. Even if I was having a particularly hard night, I couldn't last 40 minutes listening to is and NOT falling asleep. I finally copied it to my computer and put it on my iPhone and use headphones. I still use it sometimes. I think they have some of those types of things on youtube, also.
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Jehovah's Witnesses and Amway
by paul from cleveland inmaybe you're all familiar with this subject already but i just came across it tonight.
it's an article about whether or not amway is a cult.
the similarities between jehovah's witnesses and amway are incredible.. http://www.cocs.com/jhoagland/amcult.html.
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Wild_Thing
I knew quite a few witnesses that sold Am-way, but I knew a lot more that sold Shak-lee. My parents sold it under another witness coouple. When I was 3 or 4, they wanted me to sing 9-5 at one of their Shaklee meeting because I was so cute when I sang it knew all the words. (Weren't we all at that age?) My mom had enough sense to say no. Thank you, mom!
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Favorite Big Bang Character?
by snowbird in#1 rajesh koothrappali.
#2 amy farrah fowler.
rajesh because he's got sheldon's number.. amy because she reminds me so much of me.. when i was in school, i was never part of the "in" crowd.. i was viewed as weird and nerdish.. lol..
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Sheldon ... hands down! Not only do I relate to him a little bit, I think everybody knows someone who has a little Sheldon in them!