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  Has there been a recent WT on not socializing with non active JW family?

  by ThunderStruck52 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey guys, i'm not able to check this site as often as i'd like with two small kiddos to run after.

  just wondering if there has been any strongly worded wt study or direction recently about not associating or socializing with inactive jw family?

  i'm not disfellowshipped but its almost like im getting the shunning treatment from my mom in the last 2 months.

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  Wild_Thing

  It goes like that with my JW family, too. It ebbs and flows. Just be patient. It goes against their nature to shun you, so it won't last forever.
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  The Great Weird Off - Mormonism vs. Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  interesting podcast to listen to.

  exjws go head to head with ex-mormons on which religion is weirder.

  they had judges that determined who won.. http://mormonexpression.com/2014/06/16/episode-258/.

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  Interesting podcast to listen to. ExJWs go head to head with Ex-Mormons on which religion is weirder. They had judges that determined who won.

  http://mormonexpression.com/2014/06/16/episode-258/

  SPOILER ALERT: We won! (Big surprise!). Even the ex-Mormons agreed!
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  I Need Help Getting My Head Straight.......

  by TTATTelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the things i have been wresting with mentally is unraveling the "us vs. them" mentality that has been driven into my skull in the organization.. i am starting this thread seeking advice on how others have come to grip with this.. this is what i struggle with:.

  i like the feeling/thought of being among people that live, or try to live, or at least know they ought to live by higher standards of conduct (maybe it is just what i'm used to...).

  when you walk out of a convention of people dressed up, clean-cut, shaven, non-smoking, less-profanity-speaking, fairly orderly etc and see what greets you in the streets outside, it is a big contrast.. i am also still trying to understand how a religion that has conned people (so is morally wrong) could also be so well organized and have a lot of truly decent folks among their ranks.

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  Wild_Thing

  The Witnesses see things exclusively as black and white. They view people as either good or bad. The truth is the world is a whole lot of gray. The more you are around other people of different religions and backgrounds, the more you see how good that people really are.

  I have a group of really good friends that I hang out with. Every year we vacation together, too. 2 of us are democrats. 2 of us are republicans. All of us are different religions .. methodist, lutheran, baptist, and well ... me! And one of them has tattoos! (oh my!)

  Just remember ... gray is good.
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  List of Trademark Applications made by the Watchtower (JW.ORG was Refused!)

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  tl;dr: jw.org and jw library is not trademarked because the us patent office keeps refusing their application.

  i don't think either will ever be trademarked, as their design currently stands.

  jw rank & file can make all the cheap promotional crap they want and the watchtower can't do a thing about it (legally anyway.).

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  It's not exactly a scandal, but it is interesting.
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  I hope I'm not stumbling you, she said as we sipped drinks at the track...I

  by MissFit in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have a sweet jw friend.

  she is elderly and had heart problems and is hard of hearing.. she is a tiny thing and very loving.

  she is a convert and had been "in" for around 20 years.. she came "in "after her divorce.. we started hanging out together a couple years ago when i called her for a ride to the meetings.. .

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  Wild_Thing

  Everyone has their own path out of the madness. She will make her way out when she's ready! I think it so great she has you as a friend. I am guessing now that the two of you have an understanding that you are not stumbling each other, more interesting conversations about the organization may ensue!
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  List of Trademark Applications made by the Watchtower (JW.ORG was Refused!)

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  tl;dr: jw.org and jw library is not trademarked because the us patent office keeps refusing their application.

  i don't think either will ever be trademarked, as their design currently stands.

  jw rank & file can make all the cheap promotional crap they want and the watchtower can't do a thing about it (legally anyway.).

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  Trademarks owned by the International Bible Students Association in the United Kingdom:

  http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmownerid/search?domain=1&id=246556&app=0&mark=UK00002057192
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  What does this sentence mean?

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the very first sentence of the topic "inspiration" at "insight on the scriptures" volume 1, page 1202 reads:.

  "the quality or state of being moved by or produced under the direction of a spirit from a superhuman source.".

  is it defining "inspiration" as a "quality or state"?.

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  What it is saying is that they do not know what the hell they are talking about.

  I am more disturbed by the phrase " under the direction of a spirit from a superhuman source" than them saying it is a "quality or state".

  Stick with Merriam-Webster's definition: : something that makes someone want to do something or that gives someone an idea about what to do or create : a force or influence that inspires someone
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  I hope I'm not stumbling you, she said as we sipped drinks at the track...I

  by MissFit in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have a sweet jw friend.

  she is elderly and had heart problems and is hard of hearing.. she is a tiny thing and very loving.

  she is a convert and had been "in" for around 20 years.. she came "in "after her divorce.. we started hanging out together a couple years ago when i called her for a ride to the meetings.. .

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  That is great news, MissFit! Its so funny. She must have been worrying about that for a long time.

  You should give her this website and others to help make the mental break, too.
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  List of Trademark Applications made by the Watchtower (JW.ORG was Refused!)

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  tl;dr: jw.org and jw library is not trademarked because the us patent office keeps refusing their application.

  i don't think either will ever be trademarked, as their design currently stands.

  jw rank & file can make all the cheap promotional crap they want and the watchtower can't do a thing about it (legally anyway.).

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  TL;DR: JW.ORG and JW LIBRARY is NOT trademarked because the US Patent office keeps refusing their application. I don't think either will ever be trademarked, as their design currently stands. JW Rank & File can make all the cheap promotional crap they want and the Watchtower can't do a thing about it (legally anyway.)

  EDIT: FOR SOME REASON MY POST IS NOT FORMATTING CORRECTLY, KEEP SCROLLING TO SEE MORE.

  Recently I have become interested in which symbols the Watchtower society has trademarked and currently own.

  Here is a list of all applications for trademarks made by the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society of Pennsylvania to the United States Patent and Trademark Office. Two symbols they have recently been trying to trademark are JW.ORG and JW LIBRARY. Both have been initially refused, but they are still trying to get it trademarked.

  http://tmarque.com/search/results.aspx?q=Watch+Tower+Bible+and+Tract+Society+of+Pennsylvania&gns=&t=trademarkowner

  The application to trademark JW.ORG and JW LIBRARY was refused because they say it could be confused with trademarks of other companies. It was also refused because of minor errors in wording on the application that can be easily fixed.

  What is interesting is that the JW.ORG symbol they are trying to trademark is NOT the same symbol they are using on their website and literature. The dot is in the wrong place. I wonder how long it will take for the bafoons in New York to realize they are trying to trademark the wrong symbol!

  Here is the symbol they are trying to trademark along with the other trademarks that the US Patent Office says might cause confusion. Notice where the dot is:

  

  This trademark is owned by John Wiley & Sons, Inc. They sell educational material. The Watchtower argued that this symbol would not cause confusion and won. The Patent office withdrew their refusal on their application based on this trademark (but not the other trademark you will see below!)

  

  This symbol is trademarked by LongTail Ad Solutions, Inc. for downloadable computer software for playing, viewing and streaming audio and video files. The Watchtower argued against this causing confusion too, but they lost. The latest communication from the Patent office to the Watchtower stated that their refusal to trademark JW.ORG based on it being confused with the symbol below is final. The Watchtower has until September 12, 2014 to respond or the application will be abandoned.

  

  The Watchtower's application to trademark JW LIBRARY has been refused for the same reason. Notice the similarity of JW PLAYER to JW LIBRARY:

  

  The society has until August 26, 2014 to respond to the US Patent's office final refusal of their application or the application will be abadoned.
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  Let The Watchtower Show You That The Bible Contains Myth And Legend

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was fascinated by a recent wt (aug.'14) article that illustrates how original bible accounts could change and transform over time, even with the best of motives.. stories can grow over time, gain 'new details' and be altered by well-intentioned people.

  like catching a fish that seems to grow bigger in the retelling.. the august wt has a secondary article about joseph - which applies the story to modern day problems with "blended" families (so, similar in a way to ancient polygamous extended families).. the article asserts that jacob loved his son joseph in particular because his son was so faithful and righteous, perhaps giving him a special coat as a reward for his good behavior..... which is false because genesis 37 makes clear that he loved joseph because he was 'the son of his old age', in other words, a novelty or sign that the "old guy still had it and could get it up!".

  understandable but not terribly noble.. however, that bit of history isn't good enough for the watchtower so they shift the information to fit their modern day narrative about stepfamilies.. now, i understand that the story of joseph has good counsel about forgiveness in a family.

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  Wild_Thing

  The bible was written years after any of the actually events happened. Then, they were rewritten and rewritten and translated and retranslated. There is no telling what REALLY happened or who said what.

  At this point in my life, I am leaning toward the notion that Jesus was a simple human, like you and me. I think he was charasmatic and created a new cult following, who after many years, changed his story into a tall tale of sorts, like the tale of Paul Bunyan. There might be a shred of truth, but not much.