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  November is WTS Fundraising Month

  by Severus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  deep a bit deeper friends:

  this is from the kingdom ministry november 2005 "service meeting schedule".

  fundraising starts early during the week of 14 november:

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  Virgogirl

  Why do they need money anyways, if the end is coming any minute?
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  Skirting the issue

  by Virgogirl in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  what argument is put forth that women must only wear dresses or skirts to the meetings or in service and are not permitted to wear slacks?

  where does it say it's wrong for sisters to wear pants, and how are they convincing women in 2005 to buy into this?

  i remember many bitterly cold chicago mornings with frozen legs running to doors and back to the warm car as quickly as possible, wearing a skirt which was ridiculous and inappropriate to the weather conditions.

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  Virgogirl

  I think i remember something along those lines too, Miss Peaches. My comeback as a mouthy (and very cold) teenager was, "Well, then shouldn't you guys be wearing togas? And long hair? Besides, didn't Jehovah give us brains and the common sense to dress for the weather?" But aside from bad weather days when it would be logical to cover the legs, how can a working woman, for example, wear a pant suit to the office, then switch gears and tell herself she's gotta put on a dress for the meeting, because now pants are wrong? It was fine to come home from service and change into Levi's when i was a kid.
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  Skirting the issue

  by Virgogirl in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  what argument is put forth that women must only wear dresses or skirts to the meetings or in service and are not permitted to wear slacks?

  where does it say it's wrong for sisters to wear pants, and how are they convincing women in 2005 to buy into this?

  i remember many bitterly cold chicago mornings with frozen legs running to doors and back to the warm car as quickly as possible, wearing a skirt which was ridiculous and inappropriate to the weather conditions.

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  Virgogirl

  What argument is put forth that women must only wear dresses or skirts to the meetings or in service and are not permitted to wear slacks? Where does it say it's wrong for sisters to wear pants, and how are they convincing women in 2005 to buy into this? Anybody know? I remember many bitterly cold Chicago mornings with frozen legs running to doors and back to the warm car as quickly as possible, wearing a skirt which was ridiculous and inappropriate to the weather conditions. Regardless, we were never allowed to wear pants.
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  Can the Jehovah's Witnesses society be sued

  by caz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my sister who is the ex wife of the fellow i posted about,( re: commiting suicide) was a jw for 17 years being df'd 4 years ago.

  i have told her about this site and read to her the replies to the posts i have made and she has had a browse around but will not join yet as she does not have access to the internet, although she really loves the site.

  she and i were talking this morning and thru me she would like to ask; does anyone here think it would get her anywhere if she were to sue the watchtower society for years of guilt and mental stress she and her late ex husband have suffered?

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  Virgogirl

  It seems similar to me, to the employment law scenario. An employee can file an EEO for unlawful treatment on the job and have good documentation, but the burden of proof is on him or her. The individual seldom has the money to see it thru to court, while the big corporation has millions to fight the charges with. So, the little person can be right, but still lose or wind up giving up because they run out of money.
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  The Watchtower Caste System & How We All Bought Into It

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you were a jw, you know that everything hinged upon getting privileges, doing more, climbing the theocratic ladder.

  if we "made it" to ministerial servant, our goal was to reach out and be an elder.

  if we were part of a family that had an elder, m.s.

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  Virgogirl

  There was a family at our Hall, Brother and Sister S. and their two tall, slender beautiful daughters. They were SO snobby to my mom and me, who were plain and modest. They desperately tried to be sophisticated and stylish. Brother S. would pull the family Cadillac around to the door fto pick up the Vogue models. Out emerged the Snoot Sisters, in long leather coats and knee high boots, long gloves and matching hats, and the most stylish expensive haircuts. The eldest Miss S, wore the trendiest eyeglasses and lots of lip gloss. They rarely gave mom and me the time of day. One night after the meeting, dad was in line behind the S. family in our old Chrysler and I sighed wistfully at the fashionistas. My dad turned around and said, "They sure seem to have it all, but Brother S. has been quietly borrowing money from your old dad to make it to payday for several weeks now. He can't afford to keep up with all the clothes the ladies want and make ends meet too." I suddenly felt sorry for the S. family because it was that important to them to wear the best and drive an impredssve car. Mama S. so badly wanted to become an Elderette and thought appearances would do the trick.
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  I was reading a post today about the kingdom songs we sang as JW's.

  by booker-t in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was thinking about the kingdom songs we sang as jw's and was wondering about you posters out there that are ex-jw's or still jw's what was you all time favorite "kingdom song" or what was you all time horrible song that we sang from both songbooks (1966 songbook or the later songbook made in 1984 sing praises to jehovah.

  my favorite song was song #119 in the 1966 songbook "keep your eyes on the prize".

  i like this song because it made me feel that armaggeddon was coming fast and the "new system" would be here to give me the prize.

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  That awful "let's watch how we walk and watch how we talk, that thus we may be alert and wise!" Cute little ditty. There was a hard of hearing sister named Mildred who used to sing in alto real loud. And there were little instructions in parentheses like (lilting). What does that mean, lol?
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  Joke- words women use

  by dezpbem in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  words women use.

  fine.

  this is the word women use to end an argument when.

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  Virgogirl

  Right on the money, Dez!
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  What did you do to your parents?

  by whyamihere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as kids did you do anything to your parents that was a classic burn or really embarrass them?

  i was just telling a friend of mine what i once did to my mom.

  picture it!

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  Virgogirl

  I ran my mouth at the meeting (again) when I was seven. My dad was the Presiding Overseer. He decided to take me outside for a good spanking and I knew it. As he threw mw over his shoulder and carried me towards the back, I kicked my little legs and screeched, "No, help me! Somebody save me, he's going to beat me again! Help!" My dad was so embar-assed as the whole Hall turned around to watch. We got outside and he couldn't do anything so we went back in. My Grandma was in one of the rows and she didn't like him anyway, so I won that round!
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  What's with my Mom and the NWT?

  by Ingenuous in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  before i left the org, i decided to start doing my personal bible reading in a translation other than the nwt.

  my mother seemed bothered by this, wanting to know why i didn't want to use the nwt, describing why she greatly preferred it to other translations, and generally adopting a worried look whenever i mentioned the topic.

  i talked to her this morning and she turned the conversation into a q&a session on a bible i was looking for in a local bookstore.

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  Virgogirl

  They assume the rank and file are rather simple minded. The NWT is condescendingly presented as "in plain English and easy to understand." That's also the selling point to new studies.Why try to wade through all those other Bibles, with archaic English, like the King James version, when the faithful and Discreet Slave has lovingly provided us a simplified version in today's modern English? Seems like almost everybody finds this a reasonable argument and looks no further. Allegations about adding to, removing, or slanting the meaning are written off as lies, all lies!
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  Do You Still *Look* Like A Jehovah's Witness?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  would someone still mistake you for a witness?

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  Virgogirl

  Isn't it funny how some of us still have some JW in us? I am a Supervisor at work, who represents the company to the public, and am friends with another ex-jw lady. I do wear skirts sometimes and I'm always saying, "C, ya gotta tell me if I ever look like I'm dressed for the Witlessing work!" Off duty, I've got a naval ring, 3 earrings per ear and my husband says I dress like a tart, lol! It just seems like I revert to the modest look for work without realizing it; knee length dresses, modest heels, sweater, etc. Ohmigod! What if my large black leather handbag could be mistaken for a Witlessing bag??